S.t.a.l.k.e.r.: Shadow of Chernobyl (impressions video inside)

[mkreku]

Unfortunately, I can't remember what its name was, but it was so good I don't think I ever bothered to change it after that. Unless I forget something. I just remember getting a lot of different suits later and none of them matching the one I already had. Oh, and I can't check the name either since I deleted all my old save games before applying the patch..

 

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I found it by climbing up on the roof of the rail station building, falling down through a hole, running through radioactivity and opening a chest.. if that helps.

)

 

Edit: I looked it up: it was called SSP-99M (Green Spacesuit).

Edited April 10, 2007 by mkreku

[Maria Caliban]

CrashGirl:

"hmmm. What if you define cheat as breaking rules for the purpose of winning?"

 

That's not in my dictionary. However, I'd question what constitutes a rule and what it means to break one. It appears the rules themselves are quite mutable, not only goes the game give me difficulty levels that alter gameplay rule, but the developers release patches that alter them as well.

 

If the rule itself is what's important [Three shot burst to the head with Viper 5 using armor piercing rounds does 35 pts damage] then why does changing my difficulty level mean that I now do 45 pts damage, while the AI opponents do 25?

 

Either:

1) That's not a rule

2) It's a rule that the developer's of the game don't feel like following

 

I'd suggest that it's not the rule itself that matters, but that rules are just the tools game developers use in service of a greater principle. I'd suggest that cheating is not breaking the rule of a game, but neglecting the principles behind those rules.

[Slowtrain]

CrashGirl:

"hmmm. What if you define cheat as breaking rules for the purpose of winning?"

 

That's not in my dictionary. However, I'd question what constitutes a rule and what it means to break one. It appears the rules themselves are quite mutable, not only goes the game give me difficulty levels that alter gameplay rule, but the developers release patches that alter them as well.

 

If the rule itself is what's important [Three shot burst to the head with Viper 5 using armor piercing rounds does 35 pts damage] then why does changing my difficulty level mean that I now do 45 pts damage, while the AI opponents do 25?

 

Either:

1) That's not a rule

2) It's a rule that the developer's of the game don't feel like following

 

I'd suggest that it's not the rule itself that matters, but that rules are just the tools game developers use in service of a greater principle. I'd suggest that cheating is not breaking the rule of a game, but neglecting the principles behind those rules.

 

 

Well, I can't really argue the point since I strongly believe that everyone should play a single-player game how they want to play it. If someone wants to play the whole game through in God mode that's their business.

[Maria Caliban]

Well, I can't really argue the point since I strongly believe that everyone should play a single-player game how they want to play it. If someone wants to play the whole game through in God mode that's their business.

 

As someone who has gone through large portions of various games in God Mode, I'd have to say that doing so is most likely against the principles of play the developers intended.

 

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just trying to broaden the definition of cheating so it was based on the spirit of a game instead of the specific rules.

[@\NightandtheShape/@]

To define cheating is rather simple for me, explotation of bugs or console commands that aid the player and decrease the intended difficulty.

 

It's upto the player HOW they play their game, but god mode is cheating.

[Slowtrain]

Well, my only point is that it is not my buisness how others choose to play their single-player games. Whatever amuses them is fine with me.

[@\NightandtheShape/@]

Well, my only point is that it is not my buisness how others choose to play their single-player games. Whatever amuses them is fine with me.

 

In that respect i agree...

[SadExchange]

Well, I picked this game up after reading a view reviews and reading the conversations going on throughout this post and am having quite a lot of fun with it. Question though, what do I do with the bolts? And how do I get to some of the stashes by the anonmilies?

[Slowtrain]

Well, I picked this game up after reading a view reviews and reading the conversations going on throughout this post and am having quite a lot of fun with it. Question though, what do I do with the bolts? And how do I get to some of the stashes by the anonmilies?

 

 

Bolts have 2 uses:

 

1) Throw them to locate the edges of anomalies so you can slip around them. This usually isn't neccessary, but sometimes it can be the onyl way to get to stashes.

 

2) Throw them into burner and electro anomalies to discharge them, you can then usually run through while they are discharging without taking damage. Just make sure there isn't a second anomaly right behind the first, otherwise you'll run thriough the first and then get blasted in the one right behind it. Which has happened to me mre than a few times! heh

 

 

The answer to your second questyion is: Use the bolts! natch.

[metadigital]

To define cheating is rather simple for me, explotation of bugs or console commands that aid the player and decrease the intended difficulty.

 

It's upto the player HOW they play their game, but god mode is cheating.

Granted, but I agree with the sentiment of my friend who used god mode to finish Quake IV, for example, because it was just a ludicrous twitch-fest where the

[Sand]

I think I need a better computer.

[Maria Caliban]

I think I need a better computer.

 

Everyone needs a better computer. A better computer is like water, chocolate, and sex - life without it isn't truly living.

[metadigital]

Although I agree with the sentiment, I would hasten to place water on a tier above the other comparative elements ... "

[kumquatq3]

Unfortunately, I can't remember what its name was, but it was so good I don't think I ever bothered to change it after that. Unless I forget something. I just remember getting a lot of different suits later and none of them matching the one I already had. Oh, and I can't check the name either since I deleted all my old save games before applying the patch..

 

(

I found it by climbing up on the roof of the rail station building, falling down through a hole, running through radioactivity and opening a chest.. if that helps.

)

 

Edit: I looked it up: it was called SSP-99M (Green Spacesuit).

 

Isn't that the one you get for helping the mobile lab guy?

 

I just finished, got the "Want to be rich" ending.

[Maria Caliban]

Although I agree with the sentiment, I would hasten to place water on a tier above the other comparative elements ... "

 

Pfft, higher tier?

If someone offered me water, chocolate, sex, or a better computer, you can sure bet I wouldn't pick the water.

[mkreku]

Isn't that the one you get for helping the mobile lab guy?

I don't know, I got mine much earlier than that. I think I must have gotten a very rare purple treasure or something.

[Cantousent]

Unfortunately, I can't remember what its name was, but it was so good I don't think I ever bothered to change it after that. Unless I forget something. I just remember getting a lot of different suits later and none of them matching the one I already had. Oh, and I can't check the name either since I deleted all my old save games before applying the patch..

 

(

I found it by climbing up on the roof of the rail station building, falling down through a hole, running through radioactivity and opening a chest.. if that helps.

)

 

Edit: I looked it up: it was called SSP-99M (Green Spacesuit).

 

Isn't that the one you get for helping the mobile lab guy?

 

I just finished, got the "Want to be rich" ending.

 

No, I got the same one. In fact, it was exactly as you said. The radiation almost killed me and it was a real pain getting out. You had to climb these broken beams up to the ceiling and there was an electric field underneath that zapped you if you fell.

[mkreku]

No, I got the same one. In fact, it was exactly as you said. The radiation almost killed me and it was a real pain getting out. You had to climb these broken beams up to the ceiling and there was an electric field underneath that zapped you if you fell.

Exactly! Finally someone who has had the same experience as I did

[Cantousent]

Only, it was in a safe and there were two of the damned things when I went through. They sold for a lot. I don't know if it's a lot, but I've got some 60k right now. There's nothing really for me to buy, but since I'm only now getting into the juicy areas, that might change. Alls I can say is that everything got much easier when I figured out how to use the map, unload weapons, throw grenades, and (many thanks Crashgirl) toss bolts into electric fields.

[Pop]

I found that suit too. It was kickass back before the game got patched and armor became destructible I just pushed a crate over to an unboarded window and jumped through, and I had a few anti-rad pro-bleed artifacts, so I got through to the suit unscathed.

[Gfted1]

^Interesting how there are different different ways to get there instead of the ole "run thought this gauntlet to get X".

[mkreku]

Did anyone beat the arena? I totally forgot about it in my first run through the game so I tried it today instead. It's a bit tougher than I thought it would be, but I've made some progress and I am now pitted alone against two Spetznaz guys! They've killed me once before I got tired of the game and turned it off..

 

So far only monetary rewards, something I don't really need as I already have 160,000+ rubels.

[metadigital]

Although I agree with the sentiment, I would hasten to place water on a tier above the other comparative elements ... "

 

Pfft, higher tier?

If someone offered me water, chocolate, sex, or a better computer, you can sure bet I wouldn't pick the water.

What if they offered you chocolate sex with a better computer?

[Pidesco]

I tried to do the first mission stealthily, and failed miserably, as they always manage to see me before I get close enough for the headshot.

 

Do you people have any advice on stealthy killing in Stalker?

[Maria Caliban]

I don't think this game was made for stealth play.

 

*wants chocolate sex with a better computer*

Edited April 14, 2007 by Maria Caliban