Arkan Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Games appear sucky only if you do not play at your LCD's native resolution (usually the highest resolution your monitor supports). However, do keep in mind that I am pathologically allergic to "teh jaggies". Several of my friends do not find teh jaggies distracting, and a lot of them aren't bothered by non-native LCD resolutions either. Me, I feel as if every atom in my eye is being excruciatingly plucked out one-by-one when I am looking at a screen full of teh jaggies. An LCD panel running at non-native resolution, to me feels like teh jaggies with quad-damage. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "Teh Jaggies," huh? AA and other options seem to handle that problem pretty well. I certainly don't see any jaggies when I play games. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted August 9, 2006 Share Posted August 9, 2006 Start with some noise-removal, do a Lanczos resize, and add a slick sharpening filter like LimitedSharpen, and you've achieved some really high-quality upscaling. The best part is that pretty much all of the software you'll need for this is open source (GPL/LGPL). In case you're interested in giving it a shot, let me know and I'll post links to some excellent online tutorials and fora.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Give plz. And I cant say if my monitors are TN or IPS, that info is not listed in the specs. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted August 9, 2006 Author Share Posted August 9, 2006 Well, I ended up getting the 20 inch LCD flat panel moniter. The Widescreen I wanted was out of stock so I took the next best monitor they had in my price range. Not a bad monitor so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 My next upgrade will be......... ram. And lots of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I'm thinking about buying these. I don't know if surround sound's worth the extra cost though, since I'll mostly be using it for games. Plus, the sub-woofer will probably piss off the people downstairs. Hmmm. Maybe I should go with this and some headphones. Or perhaps both. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angshuman Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Check out these guides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 hould go with this and some headphones[?] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. Better result, cheaper total outlay. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 19" Widescreen LCD flat panel moniter or the 20" LCD flat anel monitor. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would go for the 20" without a second thought. Widescreen is for televisons, not monitors, because the only thing theyre good for is to watch widescreen films and film on an LCD screen is badness because it completely screws up the quality unless the film happens to be in the exact same resolution as the screens native resolution (which it wont) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You can play many PC games in widescreen. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 hould go with this and some headphones[?] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes. Better result, cheaper total outlay. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was reading up on these and some people seem to be having trouble running X-fi cards on nForce4 mobos. Is this a universal issue, or are they just unlucky? master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Universal and in need of a BIOS update. Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 (edited) Bugger. I ordered one a few hours ago. It seemed like it was the Extreme Music rather than the Fatal1ty that were having problems. EDIT: I just cancelled the order since I don't know how to update a BIOS, or even what it is. Can anyone recommend a decent sound card that will work with my mobo? Edited August 12, 2006 by WinterSun master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bokishi Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I dunno but here's come more info on X-fi on an nForce http://xfi.blogspot.com/2006/08/x-fi-crack...-continues.html Current 3DMark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Looks like it's a matter of luck; heads you're fine, tails you're screwed. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 Updating BIOS is easy to do, once the update is available. (The hardest it can be is using a floppy disk.) It can be risky, though, because the Built-In Operating System is what starts the PC, so if it gets corrupted, you have a large paperweight. (This is a fractional risk, though.) I am not trying to scare you, just making you aware of the risks. I have updated my BIOS on my critical laptop many times, so I find it a managable risk. FWIIW, I thought the main hurdle with the X-Fi soundcard was that it took up the only remaining PCI-E slot, so one had to upgrade the mobo (to a new model not yet available) when trying to cram in dual GPU, X-Fi and a PPU, later ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Quick question (and I know mkreku will say I'm nuts ): Did any of the LCD's you tested happen to have TN panels? TN panels will kill your color, contrast and viewing angles *and* give you the scaling-to-native problems, but a true 8-bit panel (PVA, S-PVA, S-IPS) will at least get the richness of your colors somewhat close to a CRT, and the only things left for you to deal with will be the aliasing and native-resolution issues. Gaah! You're a nut. Anyhow, I am trying to upgrade my PSU to a test winner to get my system ready for the big Conroe upgrade this autumn. It's proven more difficult than I thought as I've been sent the wrong item from an online shop (took 10 days to localize the fault and return the item), bought it from a local shop and is now in waiting for it to arrive, even though they promised it several days ago. Grr. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 woohoo!!! i got my new hdd and the promise controller recognizes it (i'd put it on the via controller, but the second channel is whacked). then i installed fedora core 5 without a hitch! yay! then i booted and... no linux. ugh. turns out there is an installer bug with grub (the linux bootloader). i was up till 4 a.m. getting the danged thing configured properly to insert itself into the master boot record on /dev/sda (the master drive on the via controller). anyway, i got that working (if anyone needs help with this, send me a PM), and the next task was to upgrade to nvidia drivers. oh boy, another rats nest of crap to do. after updating the linux stuff, i'll next need to boot into a command shell (init 3), and then install the drivers, and then try booting back into an x server (init 5). if it does not hang, then i can configure to always boot into my gnome shell (which is init 5). maybe, just maybe it'll all work tonight... taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Sounds like you're having a blast, taks. Myself, I'm still waiting for my new PSU. It's supposed to come tomorrow or the day after that. Like it has been "supposed to" for the last two weeks. It's annoying. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angshuman Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 What's that GRUB bug you were talking about? I really hate having to mess with bootloaders. I was planning to upgrade to FC5 sometime (currently using FC4). By the way, are you using the x86-64 version or the x86 version? I tried the 64-bit distribution for FC4 when it was released and X11 just plain didn't work... neither the default DRI drivers nor the Nvidia proprietary ones, and I tried a bunch of different kernels and Xorg releases. Decided to stick to 32-bit for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) What's that GRUB bug you were talking about? I really hate having to mess with bootloaders. it does not deal well with a 2nd hard drive if the MBR is on the first. i think this is primarily due to SATA, btw. I was planning to upgrade to FC5 sometime (currently using FC4). By the way, are you using the x86-64 version or the x86 version? x86-64. i have an AMD64 3200+ (getting an X2 soon, probably 4800+). I tried the 64-bit distribution for FC4 when it was released and X11 just plain didn't work... neither the default DRI drivers nor the Nvidia proprietary ones, and I tried a bunch of different kernels and Xorg releases. Decided to stick to 32-bit for the time being. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i have FC4 on my office box, but it is a 32-bit version. 64-bit seems to be working fine at home though i'm not done setting it up. i'll finish the nvidia stuff and work on some other driver issues tonight (sound card, etc.). i installed everything plus the yum updates so i'm into an 8-10 GB mess, btw. fortunately, i've learned quite a bit here at work, so i'm not too bad rooting around in the mess. i think i'm going to start doing my remaining school work in C, so this will be a great platform for development (the primary reason i went to linux is for the 64-bit matlab support, but C is faster, so why not use both!) taks Edited August 15, 2006 by taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
widozed Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 New computer: NEXUS MEDIUM TOWER CASE 500W FAN FILTER Processor: 5000+ X2 AM2 DDR2 800 mhzsupport Motherboard: MSI K9N SLI DIAMOND Audigy Memory: 2 x 1024 667 mhz Kingston Graphic card: GF 7900GT 256 MB Harddisk: 320 GB SATA II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 well, all problems have been solved. i am officially a home-linux user now. i still prefer the display in windows mode, however. for some reason, in linux mode the fonts are semi-sort of screwed up. and yes, i have DL'd the actual Nvidia drivers. the graphics otherwise look fine... now we just need some games in this world and i'll dump the winders OS. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Or use Wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angshuman Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 well, all problems have been solved. i am officially a home-linux user now. i still prefer the display in windows mode, however. for some reason, in linux mode the fonts are semi-sort of screwed up. and yes, i have DL'd the actual Nvidia drivers. the graphics otherwise look fine... now we just need some games in this world and i'll dump the winders OS. taks There are a bunch of guides and forum posts on the internet about how to adjust the display DPI so that your fonts look okay. I've tweaked and re-tweaked them, but I'm still not 100% happy with the results. Try typing "nvidia", "linux", "fonts" and "DPI" into google and see where that gets you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 A new optical rat. My current one is on the verge of dying on me. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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