WinterSun Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 You can give them any Daedric Shrine artefact, it doesnt have to be the star.. although I didnt know what it was foreither and so I gave that away instead of the hammer or some of the other crap you can get. The funny thing is that you don't have to worry about how your attribute points spread out. No matter what, you're going to get through the game, unless it's too difficult for you, which is when you lower the difficulty setting. You're still taking an awful lot of time and text trying to explain how the game "forces" you to meta-game. It doesn't. You choose to meta-game because you see those shiny +3 and +5 multipliers and forget that you can still choose the attribute you wanted, even though it only gives +1. Getting a mere +1 in Intelligence at levelup mean you wont be able to chuck out those spells who cost upwards 500 Mana to cast. I chose Restoration and Destructionas my class magic schools.. bad move since neither one causes INT to rise, and so I have only about 110 Mana at level 17 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I had that same problem. I used Alchemy to get the +5 modifiers to my INT. The poisons came in handy during combat, especially at higher levels. It's a pretty good source of cash too. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 You can give them any Daedric Shrine artefact, it doesnt have to be the star.. although I didnt know what it was foreither and so I gave that away instead of the hammer or some of the other crap you can get. The funny thing is that you don't have to worry about how your attribute points spread out. No matter what, you're going to get through the game, unless it's too difficult for you, which is when you lower the difficulty setting. You're still taking an awful lot of time and text trying to explain how the game "forces" you to meta-game. It doesn't. You choose to meta-game because you see those shiny +3 and +5 multipliers and forget that you can still choose the attribute you wanted, even though it only gives +1. Getting a mere +1 in Intelligence at levelup mean you wont be able to chuck out those spells who cost upwards 500 Mana to cast. I chose Restoration and Destructionas my class magic schools.. bad move since neither one causes INT to rise, and so I have only about 110 Mana at level 17 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I had that same problem. I used Alchemy to get the +5 modifiers to my INT. The poisons came in handy during combat, especially at higher levels. It's a pretty good source of cash too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Conjuration is good, too. That's what I've been using to up my INT. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Best ways to spam multipliers is probaly either; buying every store empty of ingredients and making alchemy which also gives you a ton of money, or summoning stuff and then spamming block and armor skill by getting the creature to attack you. I always have 5x in Intelligence and Endurance when I level. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Best ways to spam multipliers is probaly either; buying every store empty of ingredients and making alchemy which also gives you a ton of money, or summoning stuff and then spamming block and armor skill by getting the creature to attack you. I always have 5x in Intelligence and Endurance when I level. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've done that a few times in the Arena bloodworks to train form my next fight. But usually it was all from field work and I still got +5 multipliers. I never upped intelligence, though, because I needed the physical stats more at the time. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Yeah, really. If you don't know what it does and give it up thinking it's just a trinket. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> actually, i knew what it was, but i thought the main quest was more important. i also did not realize that my swords would last one or two fights and that's it. total joke. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 The good thing is, even depleted, your magic sword still affects undead. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 (edited) They couldn't have made it that useless warhammer or anything? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats what I gave him What clued me in about the star was where it was stored in the inventory. Edited April 30, 2006 by ShadowPaladin V1.0 I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 (edited) Lvl 29 and only ONCE got a x5. Never saw a +4... Bugs? Sun Burn when clouded, with heavy rain and thunder? Hrota cave abonded, free looting space? "Quest not updating" also happens with Buy spell NOT with refill enchanted item Skeletons who have been knocked back may loose some limbs who magically return Gin-Wulm has "Imperial City" twice after talking about "Training" When entering the fort for the Gray Prince background quest I was informed of a presence of terrible evil and that I had to be on my guard. Why did my lvl 28 only meet Rats and Timber Wolfs then? Some guard in Bruma managed to get himself INSIDE a staircase... There are some unreachable people in the Arena Bloodworks... Detect Life sees them, but there is no way to them... Edited April 30, 2006 by Hassat Hunter ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 When entering the fort for the Gray Prince background quest I was informed of a presence of terrible evil and that I had to be on my guard. Why did my lvl 28 only meet Rats and Timber Wolfs then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Umm...that place was full of vampires last time I looked. And I was level 5 then. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Umm...that place was full of vampires last time I looked. And I was level 5 then. Really? I had met 3 Vampires in the Burial Grounds but the beginmap where the questobjective is and where they told me about the terrible evil there were those Wolfs all over the place... ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 This reminds of of the people that hated Howard Stern when he first came on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Conjuration is good, too. That's what I've been using to up my INT. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem is that as I dont have conjuration or mysticism as class skills, I only have about 8-15 in them and you need a minimum of 25 for even the lowest spells from those schools DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Really? I could have sworn I found spells in those schools to cast to improve my skill in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 The problem is that as I dont have conjuration or mysticism as class skills, I only have about 8-15 in them and you need a minimum of 25 for even the lowest spells from those schools <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There should be some basic spells for each. Minor detect life for mystiscism. Bound dagger for conjuration. Luckily it dosnt take long to get to 25. Once you start constantly summoning a skeleton conjuration goes up quite nicely. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Its probably just me thats being an idiot. Which magic guilds specialise in Conjuration and Mysticism? DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 The problem is that as I dont have conjuration or mysticism as class skills, I only have about 8-15 in them and you need a minimum of 25 for even the lowest spells from those schools <{POST_SNAPBACK}> There should be some basic spells for each. Minor detect life for mystiscism. Bound dagger for conjuration. Luckily it dosnt take long to get to 25. Once you start constantly summoning a skeleton conjuration goes up quite nicely. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bound Dagger and Bound Helmet in tandem, Rest, rinse, repeat. I've been using my zombie summon for most of the game Where can I get mor substantive summons? (headless zombie?) "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 A quick way to increase magic skills is to head through an Oblivion gate and get to the portal tower. At the top there should be two mana fountains. Cast whatever minor spell you have until your mana runs out, recharge it from the fountain, then while recharges, run to the other fountain and repeat. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkan Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 A quick way to increase magic skills is to head through an Oblivion gate and get to the portal tower. At the top there should be two mana fountains. Cast whatever minor spell you have until your mana runs out, recharge it from the fountain, then while recharges, run to the other fountain and repeat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its easier to jus wait an hour. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 A quick way to increase magic skills is to head through an Oblivion gate and get to the portal tower. At the top there should be two mana fountains. Cast whatever minor spell you have until your mana runs out, recharge it from the fountain, then while recharges, run to the other fountain and repeat. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Its easier to jus wait an hour. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don't really like waiting too often. It takes away from any urgency in the story. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Why are you making this great game sound like work? Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Powergaming . Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterSun Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Oh, I'd rather not powergame my mysticism up, but I don't really want to schlep back to town every five minutes to get my sword recharged. It's just easier (and cheaper) this way. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 After running around casting "bound helmet" and "minor life detection" for 20min it just hit me that I could just bring down the console and increase my Int to a reasonable level instead. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 Is it just me or does the system seem broken? kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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