metadigital Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Well stop it! OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Jorian Drake Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 Fantasy? Yes I love fantasy settings. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Me too...I like lot of settings, many mixed ones, like Shadowrun
WinterSun Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 The trouble with fantasy is that there's too much of it. What with Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings becoming popular, every **** with a half-arsed ,sub-D&D wankfest is being published; meaning you have to wade through an ocean of sh!te to find the stuff worth reading. master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Kaftan Barlast Posted March 27, 2006 Author Posted March 27, 2006 But by fantasy you are actually just referring to AD&D rhombs? (I saw how SW was discarded) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Most people (including George Lucas) does not see Star Wars as fantasy. Star Wars has its share of absolute garbage too (KOToR fanfic writers anyone?) but its another rant for another day. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Lilandra Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 Star Wars is science fiction with fantasy elements thrown in. It may bot have the technobabble of Star Trek but it is still science fiction just like any other movie that deals with outer space and aliens. Through inner peace leads to enlightenment. Baldur's Gate Modding
Judge Hades Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 Nope. Its fantasy with sci fi bits in for it themes deal with material that is common in fantasy themed fiction such as magic, good versus evil, knights, and magic swords.
Lilandra Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 More like the opposite. Science Fiction with fantasy elements thrown in. To me, fantasy does not have aliens, star ships or modern type technology. It's still stuck in the Middle Ages. Through inner peace leads to enlightenment. Baldur's Gate Modding
Deadly_Nightshade Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 (KOToR fanfic writers anyone?) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hay, Just Another kot0R Parody was good... "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Nartwak Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 To me, fantasy does not have aliens, star ships or modern type technology. That's a personal problem.
Lilandra Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 Oh? Not that I am aware of. Through inner peace leads to enlightenment. Baldur's Gate Modding
Judge Hades Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 So, what would you call Snarfquest then? It had time traveling evil wizards on Harleys, a robot paladin type that got a Knight Order to emulate him, a dragon's head ventilated by a .45 magnum, and starships. Also elves, female humans in chain mail bikinis, medieval kings, and spoiled princesses. Ah, I loved Snarfquest. Anyway its not the content that makes a story/movie science fiction or fantasy, it is the thematic tone in which it is portrayed that determines genre. Star Wars is Fantasy.
Kaftan Barlast Posted March 28, 2006 Author Posted March 28, 2006 Anyway its not the content that makes a story/movie science fiction or fantasy, it is the thematic tone in which it is portrayed that determines genre. Star Wars is Fantasy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thats just your bizarre opinion. If you go and ask a random guy on the street he would say that Fantasy is Magic&Dragons and Lasers and starships isnt. In fact, I just hogged this random programmer that just walked by and asked him and he said: "Sci-fi. If it isnt then Star Trek wouldnt be Sci-fi either, right?" DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Musopticon? Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 Don't bother trying to outknowlegde Kaftan. He doesn't budge, even if you are right. The whole genre thing is all balls anyways. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What this rather handsome individual said. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Kaftan Barlast Posted March 28, 2006 Author Posted March 28, 2006 Don't bother trying to outknowlegde Kaftan. He doesn't budge, even if you are right. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What this rather handsome individual said. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Lies. Sometimes I change my mind just to troll " DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Musopticon? Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 (add something about exceptions proving the rule and whatnot) kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Silpheed Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 I think by this time that the only Fantasy world I can care about is Warhammer Fantasy. Dirty, evil and mean, which suits me just fine. The Forgotten Realms and it's ilk can go the same way that Dark Sun and Planescape went as far as I care (and it would probably deserve it more than the latter examples..?
Lilandra Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 So, what would you call Snarfquest then? It had time traveling evil wizards on Harleys, a robot paladin type that got a Knight Order to emulate him, a dragon's head ventilated by a .45 magnum, and starships. Also elves, female humans in chain mail bikinis, medieval kings, and spoiled princesses. Ah, I loved Snarfquest. Anyway its not the content that makes a story/movie science fiction or fantasy, it is the thematic tone in which it is portrayed that determines genre. Star Wars is Fantasy. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don Through inner peace leads to enlightenment. Baldur's Gate Modding
Judge Hades Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 It was a great gamer comic in Dragon magazine a few years back. It was hilarious.
Judge Hades Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 "Sci-fi. If it isnt then Star Trek wouldnt be Sci-fi either, right?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wrong. If you take away the starships and technology from Star Wars and place it in a medieval setting the story and themes do not fall apart and pretty much still intact. My definition of Science Fiction is fiction that centers itself around technology and technological advances which propel the story forward and allows story cohesion. Star Trek's theme is that of exploration and meeting new civilizations which can work in a setting without starships and lasers. So you are right, Star Trek is not sci fi. Following this idea neither would Firefly/Serenity. However a movie like Blade Runner is because without the advances in robotics and cloning major story elements, such as Decker questioning his own humanity, would simply would not exist if you remove the technology. The same can be said Strange Days, which a technological device is central to the theme and conflict of the story.
Fenghuang Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 I like good Fantasy. Try reading some Mercedes Lackey. RIP
kirottu Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 She has awful homepage, btw. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Jorian Drake Posted March 29, 2006 Posted March 29, 2006 Meh. She writes good books. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And who cares about the homepage then, no?
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