New Star Wars Movies

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

If he liked doing it, then I would have thought he'd do it more often.

 

Hee hee. The Empire that merchandizing built. )

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Tinkers around with them.

 

The skitts for the current run of figures are funny.

[Plano Skywalker]

>>You are assuming that GL had a detailed script. He didn't. He sketched out an opera of (six or) nine parts, then chose the second three as the interesting series (because that's when the baddies gain an upper hand and threaten to overwelm the goodies in ALL formulaic plots), then fleshed out the first story as a film because it was the most interesting plot. He never expected the first film to be successful, so he only wrote it as a single film.<<

 

right-o. he would have preferred to make his opera as one film but it was way too big so he had to zero in on certain things. in fact, the bit about Mace Windu was probably not even in a rough draft screenplay...it predates even this http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/swd1.shtml

 

 

>>Afterwards, he added the other two films in the trilogy (with varying success), one at a time. When he poured all his net worth into The Empire Strikes Back, he was betting everything on red in the casino of life: he came away from the roulette table with more money than he could spend.<<

 

for his own betterment and for our betterment.

 

 

 

>>The prequel trilogy was just made up on the spot to retro-fit into the existing trilogy. When he wrote Star Wars (later renamed to A New Hope), the "clone wars" were just a neat-sounding name for some historical event.<<

 

I've always wondered about Ep 1, 2, and 3. Obviously, "something" existed all along but when I saw Ep II at the theater, I was thinking "wow, that human cloning thing sounds pretty modern, even by SW standards"....all in all, it was a really good idea for the backstory.

[Lare Kikkeli]

please no. the tv series sound interesting though, if properly made. episodes 1-3 were so horrible that i wish that lucas would never be allowed to direct or write a movie again. then again the tv show will be directed and written by lucas. so we'll see. but i say no for the movies.

[astr0creep]

please no. the tv series sound interesting though, if properly made. episodes 1-3 were so horrible that i wish that lucas would never be allowed to direct or write a movie again.  then again the tv show will be directed and written by lucas. so we'll see. but i say no for the movies.

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That is very bad news. I was hoping he would only be a consultant for the tv shows. It's all over then. Star Wars is dead.

[Lare Kikkeli]

please no. the tv series sound interesting though, if properly made. episodes 1-3 were so horrible that i wish that lucas would never be allowed to direct or write a movie again.  then again the tv show will be directed and written by lucas. so we'll see. but i say no for the movies.

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That is very bad news. I was hoping he would only be a consultant for the tv shows. It's all over then. Star Wars is dead.

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according to interviews, he's gonna do season 1 and then pass it along.

[astr0creep]

please no. the tv series sound interesting though, if properly made. episodes 1-3 were so horrible that i wish that lucas would never be allowed to direct or write a movie again.  then again the tv show will be directed and written by lucas. so we'll see. but i say no for the movies.

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That is very bad news. I was hoping he would only be a consultant for the tv shows. It's all over then. Star Wars is dead.

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according to interviews, he's gonna do season 1 and then pass it along.

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OMG! He will kill the chick when it's in the egg! he should ONLY direct 1-2 episodes once in a blue moon. NOTHING MORE!

 

This is just making me sad. So... Sad.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

please no. the tv series sound interesting though, if properly made. episodes 1-3 were so horrible that i wish that lucas would never be allowed to direct or write a movie again.  then again the tv show will be directed and written by lucas. so we'll see. but i say no for the movies.

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That is very bad news. I was hoping he would only be a consultant for the tv shows. It's all over then. Star Wars is dead.

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according to interviews, he's gonna do season 1 and then pass it along.

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OMG! He will kill the chick when it's in the egg! he should ONLY direct 1-2 episodes once in a blue moon. NOTHING MORE!

 

This is just making me sad. So... Sad.

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Well he can either die. Or get a new hobby which makes him interested only in the money rather than direct involvement.

Otherwise your stuck with him.

[metadigital]

>>You are assuming that GL had a detailed script. He didn't. He sketched out an opera of (six or) nine parts, then chose the second three as the interesting series (because that's when the baddies gain an upper hand and threaten to overwelm the goodies in ALL formulaic plots), then fleshed out the first story as a film because it was the most interesting plot. He never expected the first film to be successful, so he only wrote it as a single film.<<

 

right-o.  he would have preferred to make his opera as one film but it was way too big so he had to zero in on certain things.  in fact, the bit about Mace Windu was probably not even in a rough draft screenplay...it predates even this http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/swd1.shtml

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He was still tinkering with the script when he was auditioning actors: take a look at the screen tests for Kurt Russell et alia on the DVD, there is confusion about Alderaan and Organa, for example.

>>Afterwards, he added the other two films in the trilogy (with varying success), one at a time. When he poured all his net worth into The Empire Strikes Back, he was betting everything on red in the casino of life: he came away from the roulette table with more money than he could spend.<<

 

for his own betterment and for our betterment.

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Pity he didn't stop when he and we were ahead.

>>The prequel trilogy was just made up on the spot to retro-fit into the existing trilogy. When he wrote Star Wars (later renamed to A New Hope), the "clone wars" were just a neat-sounding name for some historical event.<<

 

I've always wondered about Ep 1, 2, and 3.  Obviously, "something" existed all along but when I saw Ep II at the theater, I was thinking "wow, that human cloning thing sounds pretty modern, even by SW standards"....all in all, it was a really good idea for the backstory.

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Cloning is a very old concept: after all, single cell organisms clone themselves. Co-incidentally the technology to clone people became headline news when he was writing the second film. (The Emperor has been cloned a lot in the comics, apparently, so it could have been a war started over that, or between two or more of the "Emperors" fighting each other.)

 

Mass cloning was the convenient subject for episode two, just as GL used episode one as his soapbox against multinational corporations that exist above the laws of society.

 

One thing is for sure, GL has been uncommonly lucky.

[6 Foot Invisible Rabbit]

Star Wars has been dead since Episode 6. Its just a rotted corpse with maggots eating the last remnants.

[astr0creep]

Star Wars has been used since ESB as a tech demo for ILM. The Prequels are just that and nothing more. Tech demos.

 

Someone posted that Ep3 was pretty good, second only to ESB. Watch it again. It's a boring crapfest. Better than Ep1-2 for certain but that ain't saying much and saying it is better then Ep4 and even Ep6 is pure sacriligiousness!

[metadigital]

 

Verily astr0creep has spake the words of truth.

[astr0creep]

 

Verily astr0creep has spake the words of truth.

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Of course I haz

[Plano Skywalker]

Star Wars has been used since ESB as a tech demo for ILM. The Prequels are just that and nothing more. Tech demos.

 

Someone posted that Ep3 was pretty good, second only to ESB. Watch it again. It's a boring crapfest. Better than Ep1-2 for certain but that ain't saying much and saying it is better then Ep4 and even Ep6 is pure sacriligiousness!

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eye candy has always been a big part of the SW experience....EP 3 delivers on that front....

[Plano Skywalker]

the bottom line is that GL is a "big picture" guy....the details are best filled in by others...this is evidenced in the superb film know as The Empire Strikes Back.

 

in Ep3, it is obvious that he listened to the groaning of the hard core fans...otherwise, that one wouldn't have been as good.

 

GL likes adolescent, corny dialogue and cliches but his "big picture" ideas are really good (even if he does get them from the newspaper).

[Plano Skywalker]

If he liked doing it, then I would have thought he'd do it more often.

 

Hee hee. The Empire that merchandizing built. )

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well, I think he would prefer to make blockbusters that are not SW but, other than Indiana Jones, nothing else even comes close.

 

I think he likes directing just as much as writing and I suspect anything SW will have heavy involvement from him for the next decade or two.

 

I do think there will be more SW on the silver screen. I don't think there is really any question about that.

[astr0creep]

Star Wars has been used since ESB as a tech demo for ILM. The Prequels are just that and nothing more. Tech demos.

 

Someone posted that Ep3 was pretty good, second only to ESB. Watch it again. It's a boring crapfest. Better than Ep1-2 for certain but that ain't saying much and saying it is better then Ep4 and even Ep6 is pure sacriligiousness!

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eye candy has always been a big part of the SW experience....EP 3 delivers on that front....

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Would you eat a whole cake made out entirely of icing without getting sick?

[Laozi]

If I could direct, then maybe I'd go see any new movies, maybe.

[metadigital]

If he liked doing it, then I would have thought he'd do it more often.

 

Hee hee. The Empire that merchandizing built. )

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well, I think he would prefer to make blockbusters that are not SW but, other than Indiana Jones, nothing else even comes close.

 

I think he likes directing just as much as writing and I suspect anything SW will have heavy involvement from him for the next decade or two.

 

I do think there will be more SW on the silver screen. I don't think there is really any question about that.

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I question it.

[Lucius]

The biggest mistakes GL ever did was to cast Portman and Master Reva... I mean Hayden Christensen as leading roles. Not to mention the evil gungun. :angry:

 

Oh ye, EP 3 sucked. But not more than EP 2.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

The biggest mistakes GL ever did was to cast Portman and Master Reva... I mean Hayden Christensen as leading roles. Not to mention the evil gungun. :angry:

 

Oh ye, EP 3 sucked. But not more than EP 2.

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EP III looks better than it is, because it's surrounded by such awfulness.

 

I feel kinda sorry for any actor who has to pull off the kind of crap GL writes. As Harrison Ford said "You can write this crap. But you can't say it". (or words to that effect).

 

For a major motion picture (and not a B movie) EPII was the most teeth grindingly bad film I think I've had to sit through.

[Lucius]

Yeah, but it wouldn't have been so bad if GL could have just kept his big fat fingers from writing any romance dialogue. Why did he have to include any kind of sexual interest in this universe? The SW universe is asexual, babies are not born, they're just there! POP and done with! No need to talk or show any of it! DAMN YOU GL! :waves fist screaming out into the careless wilderness:

Edited March 8, 2006 by Lucius

[Moose]

k few things about RotS:

 

The dialogue and storyline were pretty crap. Lines like:

 

"he killed... younglings!"

 

"you were the chosen one!!"

 

"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" - ala Frankenstein, /sigh what utter kack.

 

Coupled with the really bad plot development. Anakin killing all those children felt completely OOC, he turned to polar opposite at the flick of a switch.

 

And the special effects, (actually there were no special effects, just ordinary ones) - I'm so sorry but unlike a lot of prats I thought they were utter sh*t. The blue screen was so hideously obvious when they were fighting on the lava you just thought back to the old superman films... cheeeesey.

 

I would say the best bit of the film was when he got incenerated but he had to open his mouth and ruin that as well:

 

"I haaaate you, waaaaah!". Urgh! /kick

[astr0creep]

Thats just about the best, most accurate review of Ep3 I've ever read Moose.

[Plano Skywalker]

those are all good points but I just think people are giving the OT a pass because they saw it when they were kids. the OT had CHEESY dialogue and BAD romance and infintile plot devices (i.e. a weapon that *vaporizes* planets).

 

true, it broke new ground and that is definitely worth something. now that *special effects* are more or less a given, we need the writers and producers to focus on the actual plot and character development.

 

some would say we just need to move on, why limit oneself to the SW universe? I just think that with the right kind of writing, acting, and directing, the SW universe has alot of storytelling potential.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

those are all good points but I just think people are giving the OT a pass because they saw it when they were kids.  the OT had CHEESY dialogue and BAD romance and infintile plot devices (i.e. a weapon that *vaporizes* planets).

 

true, it broke new ground and that is definitely worth something.  now that *special effects* are more or less a given, we need the writers and producers to focus on the actual plot and character development.

 

some would say we just need to move on, why limit oneself to the SW universe?  I just think that with the right kind of writing, acting, and directing, the SW universe has alot of storytelling potential.

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Well New Hope gets a pass because it was.. Well New :D

 

ESB gets a pass because it's a fine movie and not just because it's Star Wars.

 

ROTJ gets one for the set pieces and growth of the characters.

 

Where as the characters in the OT grew. In the new films, there wasnt really that feeling. Anakin was a whiney cry baby who despite his claimed intellect was about a bright as a spent lightbulb. The "romance" was just super cringe inducing.

 

I agree. But GL needs to realise that if you want Star Wars to appeal to adults, in any way but nostalgia. He's not the guy who can deliver that.

 

If not for the nostalgia and the "completion" factor. I wouldnt have tortured myself sitting through EP I and II. Although III was better, it still wasnt what I would call a great movie.