Judge Hades Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Personally I liked Morrowind and it looks like I will be enjoying Oblivion as well. That doesn't mean I want Fallout 3 done in that style. It just wouldn't be Fallout.
Gabrielle Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 GhostofAnakin said: Gabrielle said: Tim CainFeargus Urquhart Leonard Boyarsky T-Ray Isaac To name some. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Name them all. Because 4 names don't make it the exact same development team. Didn't MCA just write for FO2? So then he had no business writing because he didn't work on FO1, by your estimation? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Black Isle/Interplay were involved when both games were made. No one or the companies that were involved in the originals is a part of Fallout 3. Bethesda is doing it on their own THEIR way.
GhostofAnakin Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Gabrielle said: Black Isle/Interplay were involved when both games were made. No one or the companies that were involved in the originals is a part of Fallout 3. Bethesda is doing it on their own THEIR way. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which is a reason to be skeptical or guarded, but not to write it off before you even know what the game looks like. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Judge Hades Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) I have wrtten it off by what Todd Howard and Pete Hines have said about what they want to do and how they are going to make this game, not just because they are Bethesda. Edited January 25, 2006 by Judge Hades
FFSOMGLOLOLOL Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Volourn said: "How is it "crying" when you expect and accept that a game series you like is being raped again?" Huh? Games can forcefully made to have sex? Since when? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Guys, guys. In case you didn't notice, Volourn won the thread in like, page 3. Llyranor said: Fallout 3 will not be missed by me, just mocked relentlessly. Heh. And here I thought it was a plus to know what the hell are you bashing. Silly me. Judge Hades said: It just wouldn't be Fallout. It will be Fallout. They paid for the license, which means it belongs to them, not to you. If they say it's Fallout, it's Fallout, and you can't do jack about it. )
Darque Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 GhostofAnakin said: Which is a reason to be skeptical or guarded, but not to write it off before you even know what the game looks like. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. They might be surprised in the end.
Judge Hades Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Like I said, I am going by the statements that Howard and Hines have already said. By their own words they made this game unpalatable to me.
Llyranor Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 Plano Skywalker said: Llyranor said: Fallout 3 will not be missed by me, just mocked relentlessly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you know, they MIGHT just hit a home run with it. nobody thought BioWare could create a true SW CRPG but they did. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They might, but I don't care enough about Fallout to care about Bethesda. None of the Fallout games would even make my top 10. Not enough incentive to invest into a Bethesda RPG. I wouldn't trust Peter Molyneux to make Fallout 3 either, no matter how the industry or other gamers would praise it. Different tastes. I have enough games to look forward to not need to be worked up about one from a company whose games I don't enjoy. I'd say that's fair enough. Jagged Alliance 3 doesn't mean much at this point, either. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Gabrielle Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) GhostofAnakin said: Gabrielle said: Black Isle/Interplay were involved when both games were made. No one or the companies that were involved in the originals is a part of Fallout 3. Bethesda is doing it on their own THEIR way. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which is a reason to be skeptical or guarded, but not to write it off before you even know what the game looks like. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Call me a company loyalist, or a fanatical die hard fan. If Fallout 3, Baldur's Gate 3 is made by a company, not related to those who were involved in making the original games nor employeeing former people involved in making the original games, I give it a "no chance". I grow tired of debating this. No way will anyone sway me to buy it any more than I can convert them to be like myself in my ideals. I'm done talking. Edited January 25, 2006 by Gabrielle
GhostofAnakin Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Gabrielle said: Call me a company loyalist, or a fanatical die hard fan. If Fallout 3, Baldur's Gate 3 is made by a company, not related to those who were involved in making the original games nor employeeing former people involved in making the original games, I give it a "no chance". I grow tired of debating this. No way will anyone sway be to buy it any more than I can convert them to be like myself in my ideals. I'm done talking. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You don't have to get cranky, Gabs. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Darque Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Judge Hades said: Like I said, I am going by the statements that Howard and Hines have already said. By their own words they made this game unpalatable to me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Whatevah This is like someone saying they might, maybe, could, will, might package the game in a plain blue box suddenly making it not fallout because it won't have hte fallout logo on it. You haven't seen a screenshot, nor a gameplay video, or a demo. You have zero info to really go with. Dev quotes are meaningless early in the dev cycle because so many things can and do change. You're just looking for reasons to complain. But then you wouldn't be you if you didn't. (w00t)
Judge Hades Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Listen, when a developer says they want to go a certain route in a game and have the clout to do so I think it is a safe bet tis going to happen. Bethesda has the money and clout to do anything they want within one of their games. They have a style and a style that their fans expect them to contineu in each of their in house games. I expect them to continue in that style for it is something they are comfortable with. Just because they have the Fallout license doesn't mean they are going to give up that style in which they present their games. I do not expect them to nor see it happening for Fallout 3. I like Morrowind, and I know I will have a kick out of Oblivion, but just because I will enjoy those games and the style they are presented in doesn't mean I will automaticcaly enjoy Fallout 3 presented in the same style. It wouldn't be Fallout. I will support Bethesda as long as they make games I will like but from their style and the admission of those in charge Fallout 3 will not be a game I will spend money on.
Darque Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Must be the Missourian in me... unless I see it, it doesn't exist.
Llyranor Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 What is Fallout? Screw Fallout, it's just the name of a dead franchise. If I were you, I'd be more open-minded and give it a try, perhaps viewing it more as a Bethesda game than as a 'Fallout game'. Indeed, if I were you, and like Bethesda games, I'd probably get Fallout 3. Only I'm not, and I don't, so I won't. My point still remains, though (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
GhostofAnakin Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Darque said: Must be the Missourian in me... unless I see it, it doesn't exist. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Missouri eh? "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Judge Hades Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 (edited) I guess so. Anyway, I feel like playing a gme but I can't figure out which one. Sick and tired of NWN. Hmmm... Maybe I should play some Fallout. Fallout online NWN style would be kind of fun. Actually if they made Fallout in the graphical representation of NWN/NWN 2 with the option of true turn base and real time, along with a full tool set that would kick ass. Edited January 25, 2006 by Judge Hades
Llyranor Posted January 25, 2006 Author Posted January 25, 2006 Civ4 (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
GhostofAnakin Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Judge Hades said: I guess so. Anyway, I feel like playing a gme but I can't figure out which one. Sick and tired of NWN. Hmmm... Maybe I should play some Fallout. Fallout online NWN style would be kind of fun. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Try VtMB. I hear the werewolf is a killer though. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Plano Skywalker Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 since we are all over the map here, what about this RPG: http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/1014/Blitz-The-League/p1/
Darque Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Judge Hades said: Enough withthe bloody werewolf! Grrr... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not sure Hades could handle the werewolf. "
thepixiesrock Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Quote Who says you need NFL and NFLPA licensing to create a successful football gaming franchise? As a matter of fat, the gamers have pretty much demanded league backing in their pigskin titles, even the earlier days. Lou Gutman, P.I.- It's like I'm not even trying anymore!http://theatomicdanger.iforumer.com/index....theatomicdangerOne billion b-balls dribbling simultaneously throughout the galaxy. One trillion b-balls being slam dunked through a hoop throughout the galaxy. I can feel every single b-ball that has ever existed at my fingertips. I can feel their collective knowledge channeling through my viens. Every jumpshot, every rebound and three-pointer, every layup, dunk, and free throw. I am there.
Gabrielle Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 Darque said: Judge Hades said: Enough withthe bloody werewolf! Grrr... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not sure Hades could handle the werewolf. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Owned by a mutt.
FFSOMGLOLOLOL Posted January 25, 2006 Posted January 25, 2006 thepixiesrock said: Quote Who says you need NFL and NFLPA licensing to create a successful football gaming franchise? As a matter of fat, the gamers have pretty much demanded league backing in their pigskin titles, even the earlier days. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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