Well... maybe it isn't essential then if you've played thru without doing it...

 

I know that you can find one of TNO's old journals down there.. and a fairly powerful weapon.

oh, and the toughness...

 

I don't think there is any combat actually... but note it's been yeaaaaaaaaars since I last played so don't take that with less than a bag of salt.

 

I think it's just a puzzle.

Sounds cool - I remember finding a Lady doll though I didn't piss her off at the time.  Will try it now.  Why's it needed?  I played through several times without getting mazed.  The only maze which is compulsory is Ravel's.

Amazing!

 

There is another way to get mazed. You can become a worshipper of Aoskar, the original deity and lord of Sigil before The Lady kicked him out and took the place for her own. There is a temple and priest in the Alley of Dangerous Angles (name?) where you can ask about it.

 

To get out of The Lady's maze, you need to go through a portal, then walk all the way back to the portal and step into it again without using any other portal to teleport in the mean time. Of course, I can't remember which portal it is now or even if it's the same from time to time

 

Some nice hammer and a frame and part of your back history in there IIRC.

Surprisingly I can't find the lady's rag doll at Pharod's vault - I remember it being there the last time I played it... Anyawy will resort to Aoskar now.

Surprisingly I can't find the lady's rag doll at Pharod's vault - I remember it being there the last time I played it...

Stuff at Pharod's vault is randomly generated.

Sometimes the doll is there, sometimes not.

IIRC, the best place (or worse - depending on you pov :D ), to obtain the Lady's rag doll is at the Curiosity Shoppe in Clerk's Ward.

Surprisingly I can't find the lady's rag doll at Pharod's vault - I remember it being there the last time I played it... Anyawy will resort to Aoskar now.

 

Just make sure you agree to join right away. The second time you try to talk to him he will no longer talk.

Well, except if you bring Morain(?)'s Box. But if you don't give that one right away he will do his "refuse to talk" thing again...and you have an unfinishable quest.

(Had to replay a large part due to that...damnit)

 

Irritation lvl almost as high as that stupid Print Shop dude, who locks his shop and thereby tries to screw the Main Quest...

 

Well, except if you bring Morain(?)'s Box.

You mean Morridor's Box?

 

Yes.

Edited November 6, 200520 yr by Battlewookiee

Well, except if you bring Morain(?)'s Box.

You mean Morridor's Box?

 

 

 

 

BTW

Anyone knows what is so special about Old Coppereyes in Dustman Bar?

He is impossible to kill, looked at his hitpoints through Infinity Explorer - 30,000 HP!

 

He only gives me a Dustman contract, that's all.

Anyone knows what is so special about Old Coppereyes in Dustman Bar?

He is impossible to kill, looked at his hitpoints through Infinity Explorer - 30,000 HP!

 

He only gives me a Dustman contract, that's all.

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He's there so you can sign a Dead Contract - nothing more...but I suspect his near invincibility was just for a laugh.

Ok, got through the maze by becoming a desciple of Aoskar :D

I think you can also get mazed by slaughtering npcs.

Darque's charisma is at about 9

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GoA's charisma 2

 

At your rate of striking out with the ladies.

GoA's charisma 2

 

At your rate of striking out with the ladies. 

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Stop picking on me.

You're the one that said there were no pretty non fat chick sw fans.

So I'm being picked on for telling the truth? "

Than you woke up from your fantasy.

Pfft! I've yet to see proof this stereotype is false. I recall a picture thread in way off topic in which none of the females posted a pic to prove it wrong.

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I've yet to see proof

 

You do tend to scare people.

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That's relevent how?

It's occured to me that some of the art in Torment is amazing. They've basically made new art, animation, spell effects (one of my favs), interface etc just for the game - tons of work and time for just one game.

 

Maybe that's why it wasn't considered a success relative to its sales - the resources invested in the game were very high.

The good thing about Torment is using the area files for Baldur Gate mods and some of the soundsets are good. Never saw any use for the game since it was dull.

"It's occured to me that some of the art in Torment is amazing. They've basically made new art, animation, spell effects (one of my favs), interface etc just for the game - tons of work and time for just one game."

 

This is not a rarity in the gaming world. In fact, I believe it is the norm.

Compared to say IWD where they reused a lot of the animation and models it would have cost more I think.

Hmmm torment a fun game till i got stuck at a bug and i don't want to replay the game from a earlier save. Why do people praise it to the best game ever made?

Why do people praise it to the best game ever made?

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Because they're impressionable little things. However, it's nonetheless a very fine game.