Guest MacleodCorp Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Well, on the date stuff: Half-Life 2 was released October 2004, so making it able for Vampires to ship eventually in December 2004/January 2005... Which doesn't mean KOTOR2 was ALSO released in December 2004 (Only North-America X-Box though)... So both shouldn't be in 2005 competition, if you look it that way... (Not that both games shouldn't get GOTY awards of 2005, since we are only half-way into the year...) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? I bought my copy of Vampires in either October or November. Not sure what you mean by "making it able for Vampires to ship eventually in December 2004/January 2005.." In fact, both were released at the same time, if I remember correctly, since Valve didn't care because Vampires was using an older version of the Source Engine and probably wasn't worried about that older (and poorer performance) version being ripped off. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Since I reserved both games, Vampire was released about one month after the release of KotOR II in the same year. Therefore, GOA is right about the release dates. I remember it as clear as day. I thought it was weird that Bloodlines was not in the list. Eventhough they both had flaws, I believe that it would have narrowed the competition. Mario - Rated E/Y (I know it is a youth rating.) Jade Empire - Rated M KotOR - Rated T Bloodlines - Rated M (FYI - For the PC Version, KotOR II was released in February and Bloodlines was released in March of the same year. However, Bloodline was never on XBox. If G-Phoria was a battle over best RPG on PC, then I think there would be big competition.) If you look at the ratings and the games, you can tell they were not all in the same category. If KotOR II went up against Bloodlines, I think there would be a three way battle for the best. A few days ago, I started two new games in KotOR I and KotOR II. Since I am playing both at the same time, I can appreciate the overhaul on the graphics. I don't know if Obsidian added more polygons, but their characters have more features and dimensions. Even their GUI interface has extensive changes. KotOR I was great for it's release, and without BioWare there wouldn't have been a more intresting game. However, Obsidian's overhaul of the KotOR series has been very much appreciated. Compaired to the games that faught for dominance in the GPhoria contest, KotOR II did desirve center stage.
Craigboy2 Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 Jade Empire=M "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
Guest MacleodCorp Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Jade Empire=M <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks I fixed it!!! Was Jade Empire on console only?
SteveThaiBinh Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Was Jade Empire on console only? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, and no plans for a PC version. Fable for PC went gold today. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
Guest MacleodCorp Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Was Jade Empire on console only? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes, and no plans for a PC version. Fable for PC went gold today. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, that answered it! G-Phoria's competition was soley based upon console, so this is not a complete census. If it was based upon PC and Console, I think there would have been a different dynamic to the voting.
GhostofAnakin Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Fable for PC went gold today. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is it supposed to be better than the console version? I played it on my buddy's system and I gotta say I was not impressed in the least. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
SteveThaiBinh Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Well, that answered it! G-Phoria's competition was soley based upon console, so this is not a complete census. If it was based upon PC and Console, I think there would have been a different dynamic to the voting. It's possible that PC voters swung it. Who knows? Were any of the others available on PC? Is it supposed to be better than the console version? I played it on my buddy's system and I gotta say I was not impressed in the least. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Longer, they say, but probably not much different otherwise. I heard mixed things about it, too and I would like have a go on a demo before I buy it, because it does look a bit action/console-y and the demo of Bards Tale put me right off. But then, what other RPGs are on the horizon? "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
Guest MacleodCorp Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Well, that answered it! G-Phoria's competition was soley based upon console, so this is not a complete census. If it was based upon PC and Console, I think there would have been a different dynamic to the voting. It's possible that PC voters swung it. Who knows? Were any of the others available on PC? Is it supposed to be better than the console version? I played it on my buddy's system and I gotta say I was not impressed in the least. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Longer, they say, but probably not much different otherwise. I heard mixed things about it, too and I would like have a go on a demo before I buy it, because it does look a bit action/console-y and the demo of Bards Tale put me right off. But then, what other RPGs are on the horizon? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am not very sure about the other competition being available on PC. On the same note, I am not sure if PC gamers would have made a difference. I don't know what the ratio is now. Since the console and PC industry have changed, I can't make heads or tails about who plays what...
GhostofAnakin Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Longer, they say, but probably not much different otherwise. I heard mixed things about it, too and I would like have a go on a demo before I buy it, because it does look a bit action/console-y and the demo of Bards Tale put me right off. But then, what other RPGs are on the horizon? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True, not many RPGs on the horizon, but that in itself isn't really a reason to buy one I didn't enjoy the first time around. :D *IF* I see reviews glowing about how it's almost a completely different game with the additions to the PC version, I might be tempted to pick it up. As it is, Fable disappointed me more than any game in recent memory and I'm not overly interested in the PC version. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
metadigital Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Why be optimistic when bitching and moaning is so much easier? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ... AND fun. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
EnderAndrew Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 So let me get this straight, people are upset that KOTOR:2 won an award for 30 hours of good gameplay with a bad ending while Bloodlines which many people can't get to play at all should win?
alanschu Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Just to make sure this is all 100% clear, Vampire: Bloodlines and Half-Life 2 were both released on November 16th. I know because it's the day my marks did a nose dive :D
EnderAndrew Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 I have a friend of mine, Tony, who has a decent rig. It literally took 10-15 minutes per load screen and the game was bugged to the point he could barely play. He said he loved what he saw, but he couldn't play it. That is RPG of the year?
alanschu Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Something funky going on there. My Bloodlines ran fine, although there did seem to be a memory leak with prolonged playing. Restarting the game solved the problem however. Meh.
Baley Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 It takes about 20-30 seconds to load here. And yes I belive it was the best game of that year. Even the best game since Arcanum,but hey that's just me. Ender,you should give it a try. There really weren't that many bugs and your system should have no trouble handeling it.
BattleCookiee Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 What? I bought my copy of Vampires in either October or November. Not sure what you mean by "making it able for Vampires to ship eventually in December 2004/January 2005.." DAMN U AMERICANS... <_< Fable for PC went gold today. Didn't knew it was 4 November today... missed something?
SteveThaiBinh Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Didn't know it was 4 November today... missed something? Going gold is not the same as being released, or at least that's my understanding of it. They've produced the completed 'gold' version which will be copied, packaged, shipped and sold. We'll be able to buy it in November. They now have two months to work on the first patch. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
EnderAndrew Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Didn't know it was 4 November today... missed something? Going gold is not the same as being released, or at least that's my understanding of it. They've produced the completed 'gold' version which will be copied, packaged, shipped and sold. We'll be able to buy it in November. They now have two months to work on the first patch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You are correct, but games don't usually go "gold" a full 6 weeks before release that I know of.
BattleCookiee Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Maybe that is because you Americans will get it soon, And we (Europeans) have to wait till Nov. 4 Same with many other games *cough*Vampire: Bloodlines*cough*
metadigital Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 Didn't know it was 4 November today... missed something? Going gold is not the same as being released, or at least that's my understanding of it. They've produced the completed 'gold' version which will be copied, packaged, shipped and sold. We'll be able to buy it in November. They now have two months to work on the first patch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And the second patch, too. (Otherwise the second patch won't have any regression bugs that were fixed in the first patch ...) OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
GhostofAnakin Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 What? I bought my copy of Vampires in either October or November. Not sure what you mean by "making it able for Vampires to ship eventually in December 2004/January 2005.." DAMN U AMERICANS... <_< <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You quoted Darth MacLeod, but that was my quote. I'm not American. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
SteveThaiBinh Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 And we (Europeans) have to wait till Nov. 4 Amazon.co.uk says September 23. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov)
Krookie Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 I'm American, but no one is really American, because everyone has a different background. So I'm Italian and Irish...yeah..Damn those Americans!
metadigital Posted August 23, 2005 Posted August 23, 2005 What? I bought my copy of Vampires in either October or November. Not sure what you mean by "making it able for Vampires to ship eventually in December 2004/January 2005.." DAMN U AMERICANS... <_< <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You quoted Darth MacLeod, but that was my quote. I'm not American. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You live on the North American continent, don't you? That makes you American. Just like Brazilians are American, too. Problem is those ignorant citizens of the United States of America who think there is no world outside their country, least of all on their continent, and therefore think that USA equates to American, which it certainly does not. But you are American. :Darque: OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
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