Magic The Gathering

[Cantousent]

Well, you put me in my place. I stand corrected. You're not pushed and pulled at the whim of popular culture. You're just another message board cowboy flam FLAM FLAMING away at my innocuous comment.

 

I no longer play Magic the Gathering, but that has more to do with the fact that it is, as you say, difficult to find mature players than the game itself. You say that the players and the game go hand in hand. That's fair enough. ...And I'll give you your preference when it comes to role-playing, although I often hear the same or similar comments when it comes to role-playing as you've made regarding MtG.

 

The same comments, yes, and yet it is true for both RPGs and MtG that the younger players tend to underperform in the game. They make stupid character builds and lack discipline when creating decks. That's not to say that children are stupid, only that most games favor folks who spend the time to learn the rules and take advantage of them.

 

As to my assessment of your personality... well, what can I say? You don't care what people think, so why be offended? After all, you're your own man. Here, let me make another observation: I think you protest too much, sir.

 

I think you've made an observation about a game when you really meant to make an observation about the players. I could say your comment, "[t]hese high school graduates still play Magic cards! I weep for my ancestors since their offspring have degenerated into morons!" was offensive. I merely pointed out that your comment was misguided. ...And since you led your post with that particular quote, I'm assuming you were looking at others' opinion at least long enough to type out what they'd said.

 

You don't like MtG because you've had bad experiences? Fair enough. Was my analysis of your character offensive? I'd hoped it would not be, but I beg forgiveness for causing offense. The fact that you then responded with a little touch of flame leads me to believe that I misunderstood your original comments, but that perhaps you took my answer too much to heart. After all, if you don't care what your real life peers think, you most certainly should not care what I think.

 

I haven't played MtG for years, but that's kind of like the RPG dry spells I've had. If I could find a good group, I'd gladly play the game again. Hell, if Atreides didn't some thousands of miles away, I believe I could count on him not to accuse me of using tapped lands. As it stands, I'm getting rid of the cards because I don't have enough room for all of the junk in my house and they're not being used for anything.

[jodo kast 5]

Naw, i don't like card collecting i like 3-D stuff not pictures except for when i need them.

[Darque]

All monos?

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You'd be amazed how affective an all black monocolored deck is.

 

It takes something very specialized to kill it.

[Darque]

I stopped playing Magic because the game is childish.

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Then you really haven't grasped the game very well.

[Kaftan Barlast]

MtG is about two things

 

 

1. A good deck

 

2. Luck(which may not be necessary if your deck is good enough)

[Walsingham]

I can't REALLY criticise, since I've never played MtG, but can it REALLY be better than poker?

[Darth Flatus]

no. i've never played either, but i used to disrupt games at school and terrorise the players. That was a fun game - nerd rage is cool.

[Oerwinde]

All monos?

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You'd be amazed how affective an all black monocolored deck is.

 

It takes something very specialized to kill it.

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I had an all red goblin deck that was pretty devastating. When I had my 9/9 mountainwalk Mons Goblin Raiders and Goblin Warrens tokens, and some enchantment that made all lands act as mountains as well as their standard land type, people got angry.

[213374U]

I no longer play. At some point I realized that the new editions were just crap and the cards from the older ones (up to Revised) were either being restricted, banned or reaching absurd prices. The VtM CCG is fun too, but I really don't want to get entangled with another CCG. It takes up too much of my time.

 

 

Your attempt to deduct my personality on the basis of a simple comment is as offending as the game you're defending.

I think there is a little problem of semantics here. You see, MtG is not offensive. Offensive is, for instance, being described as a sad, immature, attention-craving wanker that likes to bang his chest behind the safety provided by his 'net anonimity, while at the same time accusing others of things that he does/would like to do/did in the past, effectively being a hypocritic jerk.

 

See, that's offensive, if only because, ironically, it's true (otherwise it would just be a provocation and a lie).

 

 

You're just another message board cowboy flam FLAM FLAMING away at my innocuous comment.

"Yeehaa!"

[Atreides]

The thing about Magic that most attracts me is the creativity you have at constructing your decks, the ones you encounter and the flavour of it. Sometimes you can get jaded and think about it in just winning, numbers etc but when you step back and look at it - it's quite something when your black death/decay zombie deck dukes it out with say a green life gaining deck etc. The art helps too

 

As such, no customised decks are really the same from player to player and that's what makes it more appealing to me than say chess or other standardised games. The main drawback I see is obviously the cost and familiarising yourself with the cards that keep coming out - especially if you've been out of the loop for awhile as I have.

 

At some stage, you may start looking at the game from a more experienced point of view - say realising the importance of consistancy, mana/power progression, chances of getting the cards you want etc over including everything that looks cool into your 90+ card monster deck. That's when it kicks into a new level of interest. Including probability theory might not seem as absurd, but there are probably too many variables to keep track off beyond simple events without going insane.

 

Looking back at high school where I had the most fun - it's about the people you play the game with. Preferably they'll share the same focus as you do - whether it's to play just for fun or more serious players. I've mentioned previously that I'm in it mostly for the creativity and fun tricks so finding people who are into say constructing theme decks or budget decks might suit me better.

 

Actually most of my experience with magic is theoretical deck building because I lack the resources to actually make them realities :"> I find it quite fun to look at the cards, think of interesting/fun interactions and build ideas around them. Can't say I've tried too many of them out. Most of the time I just see what kind of feedback I get from friends.

[Calax]

I suppose I could take them Eldar. Don't know if they'd get any use but I somtimes play with others. Anyone remember the day's when the Shivan Dragon was the RAREST card on the market? My brother had one of those only to have everyone loose interest because It was considered "illegal"

[Atreides]

Now it's about the foils. Those devious people at Wizards keep finding ways to suck you in

[Sarjahurmaaja.]

"I suppose I could take them Eldar. Don't know if they'd get any use but I somtimes play with others. Anyone remember the day's when the Shivan Dragon was the RAREST card on the market? My brother had one of those only to have everyone loose interest because It was considered 'illegal'"

 

[Cantousent]

I used to play a lot of mono-black. Considering how much I hate being the bad guy, that's remarkable. I've also played a lot of green. The Tournament I won was a draft and I played a red/green deck. Depending on which set was currently active, I smote all about me with a green/white deck. I've never been much for patient decks. I want something fast that will destroy others quickly. My emphasis on attack rather than defense is sometimes an advantage and sometimes a burden.

 

I usually care a lot less about gainging life than I do about destroying others. For that reason, I only choose life gaining cards for other reasons, such as drain life. It's kind of funny, but white is actually quite a offensive color choice. At least much more than people seem to think. A fast green/black deck just tends to be pretty ugly news for your opponent. Blue has always been my weakest colors. I've done well against others with every color, but I lack the finesse and patience to use blue effectively against good players. I suppose my favorite is probably red/green, with emphasis on creature control and heavies.

 

Anyhow, I've taken out some of the more valuable cards. I still have quite an assortment of rares, uncommons, commons, lands, and even some of those foil ones that came out around the time I stopped buying the cards. Many of these cards came to me free by way of a friend who worked for WotC corporate. At any rate, I would rather give them to someone who will use them, but I'm willing to send them to anyone who wants them. I have thousands of the damned things.

 

Here's the deal: I offered them to Atreides first, and so he's got first dibs. I'll send them the cheapest way possible and the only thing I ask is that you reimburse me the shipping cost upon receipt of the cards. That's right, I'm trusting you to repay me. I warn you, though, the boxes are heavy. If you'd like me to take them to the post office to check the shipping price before making a decision, let me know. If you're a serious player, I think you'll like the price.

 

This offer is for Atreides, but you can let me know if you want them just in case Atreides doesn't. It's a first come, first served sort of thing. So, Calax is next. I'm not trying to make money off of you, but I'd appreciate it if I could hear only from those folks who can and are determined to reimburse me the shipping price. I will include a copy of the shipping receipt, which should also be posted on the package at any rate, with the items in question.

[Darque]

I like Black for it's drain life and life stealing cards as well as it's card drawing ability. Mix in some decent blockers and some mana production cards and you can just eat your opponent... litterally

[Shryke]

i used to love playing with my red deck. i was all for pure destruction

 

although with my new decks, i have really started to appreciate my blue one. your opponent finally gets enough mana to get a big nasty card, and you just counterspell it :D

[Atreides]

I find perverted love in frustrating players with blue. However recently I'm being seduced with red's burn. However, I don't like playing really negative decks like Millstone etc which are just too unfun.

 

Nowadays when I look at creatures (esp blue) I'm get too worried if they're 1 toughness and even two because of red and black's board clearing damage.

 

 

@Eldar: PM'd you.

[Shryke]

blue takes some strategy to use, and it can get quite annoying if you are facing another blue deck.... damn chain-counterspelling

[Darque]

Blue takes patience and strategy.

 

Control/Counter/Draw makes for a nasty 3way strategy.

[Kaftan Barlast]

It was all about red when I played last time. That sort of sucked because the matches would be over in 5min with a lot of fireball, ball lightning etc.

[Atreides]

Personally I'm more about bounce and tapping stuff with counter. I managed to keep a green stompy/green deck at bay with my blue, heh

 

The spirits flame deck looks really powerful by my standards anyway. The creatures just keep coming back from the graveyard with soulshift and they interact well with the arcane pumping/splicing with red burn.

[Calax]

"I suppose I could take them Eldar. Don't know if they'd get any use but I somtimes play with others. Anyone remember the day's when the Shivan Dragon was the RAREST card on the market? My brother had one of those only to have everyone loose interest because It was considered 'illegal'"

 

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I know I hav ehorrible grammer. I could probably care less, mainly because in the wonderful world of american schooling, Grammer only counts in English...

[Cantousent]

How's this for you? I just had my cards weighed and I have almost 50lbs. Woo Hoo! I was looking through the cards last night and I have a couple of unopened booster packs. Good thing a lot of these were free, huh?

[213374U]

How's this for you?  I just had my cards weighed and I have almost 50lbs.  Woo Hoo!  I was looking through the cards last night and I have a couple of unopened booster packs.  Good thing a lot of these were free, huh?

 

I admire you for wanting to give it all away, but all things considered, I think your wife may be right...

[Cantousent]

I've taken some of my favorites out of the set I'm shipping. There are still a bunch of rares in it, but I kept my Shivan Dragons and moxes and what not. I think I left in the demonic tutor and some other valuable cards. I am quite honest in that I'd rather give the cards to kids at an orphanage than sell the damned things. I consider most of the folks around here as the equivalent of an orphan. hahahahahaha. Dammit, no one understands my sense of humor.