mkreku Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 The point I was making was that if you can write an entire thesis on one song, I'm sure you can find just about any "references" you want to find in a movie. Some people have even managed to find predictions about 9/11 by reading the bible upside down, using a complex formula while eating cooked bananas. I'm aware The Matrix is full of neat little extra details, but what's the point? It's ironic though.. Aren't you the same people who wrote that Fahrenheit 9/11 was just a bunch of lies? But The Matrix on the other hand.. This is kind of what that swedish guy did to The River: http://artisanitorium.thehydden.com/nonfic...film/matrix.htm Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Phosphor Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 I'm aware The Matrix is full of neat little extra details, but what's the point? What do you mean "What's the point"? The Matrix is a film that questions reality, that makes it's own myths - it creates a world. Like any fiction, be it book or film. It's a philosophy dressed up in flashy clothes. It's psychology without the boring bits, it's a study of religious esoterica. I think The Matrix is an incredibly intelligent and clever trilogy. Over three films, the Wachowski's didn't quite keep it together and it did stumble and falter here and there. But I think the overall result was great and certainly to be commended. It's ironic though.. Aren't you the same people who wrote that Fahrenheit 9/11 was just a bunch of lies? But The Matrix on the other hand.. No, it's not ironic at all as you most certainly have me confused with somebody else.
'JN Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 I'm aware The Matrix is full of neat little extra details, but what's the point? It's ironic though.. Aren't you the same people who wrote that Fahrenheit 9/11 was just a bunch of lies? But The Matrix on the other hand. Farenheit 9/11 was supposed to be a documentary, The Matrix is science fiction. I have no idea where you are coming from on this one.
Cantousent Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 I don't think the message should be discarded because of the medium. I didn't look to the Matrix for my personal philosophy, it's true. Still, movies can be thought provoking. I'd rather read a book most of the time, but I've found a lot to think about in a lot of films. The Matrix has a ton of symbols. If you're like me, and I suspect mkreku and I are quite alike in this respect, you don't look to the matrix for anything more than a fun action film. That doesn't mean that JN' or Phosphor are somehow substandard for finding something more in the film. Hell, it might say something quite good for them. After all, one of my favorite set of books is the Dark is Rising series by Susan Cooper. It's a young adult book set I first read in Junior High School. A child's book or an action film... *shrug* We have to think about something, I suppose. Getting a thought or two from an action film is not so great a sin as getting no thought at all. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Meshugger Posted July 29, 2004 Posted July 29, 2004 My vote would be on "Shawshank redemption". At first, i thought it another half-assed Stephen King movie, but instead, it turned out to be one of the best movies i've ever seen, right up in the same division as The Godfather, Apocalypse Now and One flew over the cuckoo's nest. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Product of the Cosmos Posted August 1, 2004 Author Posted August 1, 2004 "My vote would be on "Shawshank redemption". At first, i thought it another half-assed Stephen King movie, but instead, it turned out to be one of the best movies i've ever seen, right up in the same division as The Godfather, Apocalypse Now and One flew over the cuckoo's nest." I also loved that movie^^ I may just watch it agian tonight.
Product of the Cosmos Posted August 2, 2004 Author Posted August 2, 2004 Billy Jack<-- Older movie I just saw last night. One of the most suprising movies ever IMO. Great movie.
Cantousent Posted August 6, 2004 Posted August 6, 2004 I have to see Boondock Saints again. It was both funny and sad. What a great film. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Product of the Cosmos Posted August 6, 2004 Author Posted August 6, 2004 Recently picked up Gattica, was also very good IMO.
Errantry Posted August 7, 2004 Posted August 7, 2004 "The Pianist". It was an excellent movie, and not nearly as sappy as I had expected. Sentimental, yes, but not overly so.
Meshugger Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 I have to see Boondock Saints again. It was both funny and sad. What a great film. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Indeed, highly recommended. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Whitemithrandir Posted August 10, 2004 Posted August 10, 2004 "The Pianist". It was an excellent movie, and not nearly as sappy as I had expected. Sentimental, yes, but not overly so. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> meh, didn't bring anything special to the stage for me. Word economics To express my vast wisdom I speak in haiku's.
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