[Mechanics] Generic Ability Class Access Summary Table

[Elric Galad]

Talent Name	Fighter	Paladin	Barbarian	Monk	Rogue	Ranger	Cipher	Chanter	Wizard	Druid	Priest
Tier 1
Fast Runner	x	x	x	/4	x	x	/	/	/	x	/
Arms Bearer	Every Class gets it
Monastic Unarmed Training	x	x	x	/4	x	x	x	/	/	/	x
Tier 2
One-Handed Style	Every Class gets it
Two Handed Style	Every Class gets it
Two Weapon Style	Every Class gets it
Weapon and Shield Style	Every Class gets it
Tier 3
Combat Focus	Every Class gets it
Bull's Will	x	x	x	x	x	x	/ 2	x	x	x	x
Bear's Fortitude	Every Class gets it
Snake's Reflex	Every Class gets it
Tier 4
Tumbling	x	/	x	x	x	x	x	/	/	/	/
Spirit of Decay	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x
Scion of Flame	/	x	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x 3
Heart of the Storm	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x
Secrets of Rime	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	/3
Spell Shaping	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x	x
Tier 5
Tough	Every Class gets it
Uncanny Luck	x	x	x	x	x	x	x	x	x	/	/
Rapid Casting	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x	x	x
Far Casting	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	/	x	x	x
Practiced Healer	/	x	/	/	/	x	/	/	/	x	x
Tier 6
Improved Critical	Every Class gets it
Spell Resistance	Every Class gets it
Quick Summoning	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x5	x
Martial Casting	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	/	x	x	x
Tier 7
Penetrating Empower	Every Class gets it1
Lasting Empower	Every Class gets it1
Accurate Empower	Every Class gets it1
Potent Empower	Every Class gets it1
Tier 8
Great Soul	Every Class gets it1
Tier 9
Prestige	Every Class gets it

 

Notes :

1 : Blood Mage can't get Empower Talents

2 : Cipher gets Iron Will at Tier 1, which is a better version of Bull's Will

3 : Priest of Rymrgand has access to Secrets of Rime instead of Scion of Flame

4 : Monk has no monastic unarmed training, but gets Transcendant Suffering for free. Monk has no fast runner but gets long strike and Graceful Retreat at Tier 2 instead.

5 : Lifegivers do get Quick Summoning.

Edited August 11, 2021 by Elric Galad

[Not So Clever Hound]

26 minutes ago, Elric Galad said:

5 : I suppose that Lifegivers don't get Quick Summoning (to be checked)

Lifegivers can actually pick this ability. It is not removed from the Druid table.

[Elric Galad]

7 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said:

Lifegivers can actually pick this ability. It is not removed from the Druid table.

Great... Does it have any use ? Does it work with Monk twins ?

[Not So Clever Hound]

18 minutes ago, Elric Galad said:

Great... Does it have any use ? Does it work with Monk twins ?

Well, not for a SC Lifegiver but you can use it on other summons if you multi with Wizard, Chanter etc.

I haven't tested with The Dichotomous Soul specifically but it should indeed work:

Quick Summoning does this: Self: +15% Action Speed with Summoned Creature Spells

And The Dichotomous Soul is tagged with Summoned Creature. So it should get the bonus.

[Elric Galad]

9 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said:

Well, not for a SC Lifegiver but you can use it on other summons if you multi with Wizard, Chanter etc.

I haven't tested with The Dichotomous Soul specifically but it should indeed work:

Quick Summoning does this: Self: +15% Action Speed with Summoned Creature Spells

And The Dichotomous Soul is tagged with Summoned Creature. So it should get the bonus.

But is not a spell  

Wizard and Chanter get the talent. So apart picking it on a level with Mandatory druid pick, it doesn't matter much.

 

Tricks with the above table :

- Picking Iron Will and Bull's Will with a Cipher multiclass

- Picking Long Stride and Fast Runner with some Monk multiclass

- Picking Practiced healer with your Ranger with Chanter multiclass (does not get the talent). Who is gonna pick Practiced Healer with a Ranger ?

etc... 

[Not So Clever Hound]

15 minutes ago, Elric Galad said:

But is not a spell

Yes I actually built a toon to test: neither Quick Summoning nor Rapid Casting work with Dichotomous Souls. I stand corrected.

[Elric Galad]

9 minutes ago, Not So Clever Hound said:

Yes I actually built a toon to test: neither Quick Summoning nor Rapid Casting work with Dichotomous Souls. I stand corrected.

It's like law, every word matters.

Except somtimes words are also buggy.

[Not So Clever Hound]

It sounds like Deadfire's gamecode is the perfect offspring of Woedica and Wael .

[Elric Galad]

I suppose it does not work with Ghostheart either. Would have been the most marginally useful ability of the game.

[dgray62]

Doesn't cipher get MUT too? I could have sworn that they get this.

[Boeroer]

Cipher does have access to Monastic Unarmed Training.

[Elric Galad]

10 minutes ago, Boeroer said:

Cipher does have access to Monastic Unarmed Training.

Always has been

[thelee]

It never really made sense to me why Uncanny Luck is missing from just druid and priest. Especially druid, who is expected to do some offensive action or martial-ing. Priest I can sort of get if the designers thought priest would just be casting buffs all the time, but Uncanny Luck has almost universal (small) utility just from the hard resist chance.