Guest Surlent Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 If there's any problems with licenses coughcoughDnDcoughcough or you think its still early to decide what setting it could be, then Obsidian folks don't be afraid to do something your own! B) (Which means own setting or titles as Obsidian has already stated they would do in future.) Whether really something different or not, IMO Obsidian has good grounds (thnx to KotR2) to make something new. Fallout and PST (while PST was DnD the setting isn't used that often) both were original and became more or less known / sold well. With (Japanese/)console RPGs (FFs, Suikoden, Dragon Quest) nowadays come and go like from factory line every other being the same and in PC side its either just hack 'n slash (Beyond Divinity, ToEE, Sacred, Dungeon Siege series) or Bio's projects that take 3-5 years to develop and rip people's patience part by part away. Games like Morrowind and BG2 are just too huge to make and require lots of investments. Since Obsidian hasn't expressed its interest in making MMORPGs (yet ? ) I count those out and there's a list of them already/coming out anyway. IMO it seems time would be great for an original RPG that would made in 1,5 - 2,5 years. Which means it would last the average 20-60 hours of gameplay. Any1 agree ?
Maria Caliban Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 Obsidian has already stated that it's developing a second title but hasn't given much more information than that. I'm going to guess that we won't receive any details until after they release the Sith Lords. I wonder, do they have the rights to the Odyssey engine or is it the property of LucusArts or BioWare? If not, are they developing their own in-house engine? "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
EnderAndrew Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 I don't think they'd reuse the Odyssee engine unless they were doing KOTOR:3. Their new project will either involve building an engine from the ground-up, or licensing an existing engine. While I'm somewhat wary of the concept, I'm also curious to see how Vamp comes out. Can RPGs make good use out of a solid FPS engine with good native scripting support?
Maria Caliban Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 With KotOR being their first title, it seems that Obsidian is posing itself as another provider of RPGs. I'd like to see them distinguish themselves from BioWare's line of products as a provider of more mature, artistic games. But that's just wishful thinking. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
sniggy Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 if its an rpg, they might as well just use the same engine. i just hope that they don't try to built a story on anything that has to be licensed. they might as well just come up with some creative stuff that isn't based on anything. It's very hard to be polite if you're a cat.
EnderAndrew Posted May 31, 2004 Posted May 31, 2004 Audiences seem to be craving darker and darker tones. Perhaps we are entering a neo-Victorian era where morality is screamed by the masses during the day, and the macabre is all the rage at night.
Opus131 Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Audiences seem to be craving darker and darker tones. Perhaps we are entering a neo-Victorian era where morality is screamed by the masses during the day, and the macabre is all the rage at night. Actually, the macabre is being screaming day and night, morality is just depasse this days... Opus131
EnderAndrew Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Given that the majority of the house/senate in the US are conservative Republicans, it would seem the majority shifts towards an emphasis on morality.
Iolo Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 I don't think they'd reuse the Odyssee engine unless they were doing KOTOR:3. Their new project will either involve building an engine from the ground-up, or licensing an existing engine. While I'm somewhat wary of the concept, I'm also curious to see how Vamp comes out. Can RPGs make good use out of a solid FPS engine with good native scripting support? Probably licensing an engine. Developing your own engine takes a lot of time and resources. I don't see how the Odyssey engine couldn't be adapted to other types of RPGs though. Some company adapted the Aurora engine from NWN to be the game Witcher for instance.
Opus131 Posted June 1, 2004 Posted June 1, 2004 Given that the majority of the house/senate in the US are conservative Republicans, it would seem the majority shifts towards an emphasis on morality. I'm talking about the media and entartainment, the goverment will always scream about morality, and then do the exact opposite on a daily basis, that's a given... Opus131
EnderAndrew Posted June 6, 2004 Posted June 6, 2004 The more and more I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if Obsidian did something really off the wall. MCA keeps mentioning a high-school RPG. I doubt that is the second project. If it was, MCA wouldn't talk about it. However, I expect something equally innovative in setting and tone.
LostStraw Posted June 7, 2004 Posted June 7, 2004 The more and more I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if Obsidian did something really off the wall. MCA keeps mentioning a high-school RPG. I doubt that is the second project. If it was, MCA wouldn't talk about it. However, I expect something equally innovative in setting and tone. High school, now there's one place I would not like to revisit. I can just see the character creation system now. Game: Would you like to be a Nerd, Dweeb, Jock, Prep, or Goth?.. or perhaps you would like to multi class. I can't say I'm not intrigued by the idea though.
Raven Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 i wish someone would finally make a damn star trek RPG! seems noone wants the licence. look, kotor brought back star wars, who says it cant happen with trek, right? or maybe a great iron chef RPG, building up your chef to compete with the great iron chefs. and have voiceovers with takeshi kaga, cause hes your ruler!
EnderAndrew Posted June 8, 2004 Posted June 8, 2004 Activision was holding the Star Trek license last time I checked. Then they sued Viacom for driving the Star Trek intellectual property into the ground. Activision seemed to have no desire to do anything with the license. Nor does anyone else.
EnderAndrew Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 The Star Trek property may be seeing a small resurgence as people are trying to save the Enterprise show. However, the games haven't sold and Activision did in fact sue Viacom.
omnimutant Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 Lets Just hope it's Not another DnD or midevilish Fantasy. WE need somthing new! (or FO3)
EnderAndrew Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 I'd like to see a game take a completely different take from traditional games. What about playing a demon in the middle of some eternal jyhad?
The.Donut Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 A western cRPG would be nice. Maybe make it non linear with all sorts of wonderful things (duels, bank robberies, bounty hunting etc).
Guest Surlent Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 EnderWiggin What about playing a demon in the middle of some eternal jyhad? -Sounds good. If it involved any traditional rpg elements, it would be ideal for high level campaign. The.Donut A western cRPG would be nice. Maybe make it non linear with all sorts of wonderful things (duels, bank robberies, bounty hunting etc) -This almost sounds like Arcanum when playing it through with badass gunslinger.
LostStraw Posted June 9, 2004 Posted June 9, 2004 EnderWigginWhat about playing a demon in the middle of some eternal jyhad? -Sounds good. If it involved any traditional rpg elements, it would be ideal for high level campaign. The.Donut A western cRPG would be nice. Maybe make it non linear with all sorts of wonderful things (duels, bank robberies, bounty hunting etc) -This almost sounds like Arcanum when playing it through with badass gunslinger. As long as it didn't have magic, magic like abilities, or a fantasy setting/story it wouldn't be anything like Arcanum. I tried playing as a badass gunslinger but the fantasy portion of the game really made it hard to get into it. So many CRPGs have magic like elements in them (force powers in KOTOR for example) that it's getting old. I think the setting of the old west would make for a rather unique experience for a CRPG (as long as they kept out all the magic crap <_<).
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