Ophiuchus Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 4.)Thaumaturge (wizard/skaen) - a very strong "jack of all trades" that gets progressively more potent with higher levels until this class becomes self sufficient to solo the game.This sounds intriguing and I've wanted a good Xoti replacement. Care to share more details?There is a good "solo" thaumaturge build here in the forum builds list from araj. I suggest using it as a blueprint and modify it slightly for party play, like taking circle of protection and maybe despondent blows instead of llengrath safe wards. Basically, it is a midline support. You use Ninigath's grimoire ideally, take all the cool and useful priest party buff spells like level 1 aoe heal, withdraw, salvation of time, circle of pretection and the fire damage spells. Skip devotions for barring death door+shining beacon imo. In wizard you take defensive boosting spells at low level but maybe also combusting wound+expose vulnerabilities, definitely scion of flame and maybe secret of rime. At mid level (5+) wizard you take terrify spell and at high level pillar of flame and holy storm from a priest. In the end you basically get a more tradition backline/midline priest who uses utility spells to buff part and debuff enemies and do damage through cold+fire spells. Ideal weapons are Sun+moon and the soulbound dagger (or Xoti's sickle with speed buff). It's not a monster damage dealer until storm of holy fire but it has a nice toolkit of buffs and debuffs which are different in their nature from cipher or chanter buffs/debuffs. Basically also you make wizard/priest if you want a dedicated buffer/debuffer of that type in your party - one that does not need other resources to buff/debuff like chanter or cipher and can unload all the spells instantly without attacking. Nice. Thinking of going Priest of Rymrgand(modded)/Generalist Wizard for a new hireling. Thanks. It's not that special minus the high level spells. Considering its unique spells are mostly Wizard spells the combo above might be a bit redundant. Maybe Priest of Berath, then. I like the idea of a character that has access to Priest, Wizard, and Druid spells. Slash and Burn: A Warlock Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1TTFFSSE Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 (edited) 4.)Thaumaturge (wizard/skaen) - a very strong "jack of all trades" that gets progressively more potent with higher levels until this class becomes self sufficient to solo the game.This sounds intriguing and I've wanted a good Xoti replacement. Care to share more details?There is a good "solo" thaumaturge build here in the forum builds list from araj. I suggest using it as a blueprint and modify it slightly for party play, like taking circle of protection and maybe despondent blows instead of llengrath safe wards. Basically, it is a midline support. You use Ninigath's grimoire ideally, take all the cool and useful priest party buff spells like level 1 aoe heal, withdraw, salvation of time, circle of pretection and the fire damage spells. Skip devotions for barring death door+shining beacon imo. In wizard you take defensive boosting spells at low level but maybe also combusting wound+expose vulnerabilities, definitely scion of flame and maybe secret of rime. At mid level (5+) wizard you take terrify spell and at high level pillar of flame and holy storm from a priest. In the end you basically get a more tradition backline/midline priest who uses utility spells to buff part and debuff enemies and do damage through cold+fire spells. Ideal weapons are Sun+moon and the soulbound dagger (or Xoti's sickle with speed buff). It's not a monster damage dealer until storm of holy fire but it has a nice toolkit of buffs and debuffs which are different in their nature from cipher or chanter buffs/debuffs. Basically also you make wizard/priest if you want a dedicated buffer/debuffer of that type in your party - one that does not need other resources to buff/debuff like chanter or cipher and can unload all the spells instantly without attacking. Nice. Thinking of going Priest of Rymrgand(modded)/Generalist Wizard for a new hireling. Thanks. It's not that special minus the high level spells. Considering its unique spells are mostly Wizard spells the combo above might be a bit redundant. Maybe Priest of Berath, then. I like the idea of a character that has access to Priest, Wizard, and Druid spells. Yeah Rymrgand priest himself does not have access to scion of flame so fire priest spells and a bunch of other classes fire spells are suboptimal with that subclass. I got to the dlc yesterday and I think I like Rymrgand subclass combined with 1.)barbarian (if spirit tornado gets boosted by secrets of rime -that be even better?). 2.)druid if you go with fury druid+decay/cold nuker - but you'd be really glass cannony, considering druid does not have the good self defensives as a wizard. -literally you'd have to relay on some other toon constantly buffing healing you or use barring death's door. Vatnir himself (his race) is really good for Barbarian/Priest btw because his race gives bonuses to applying sickened afflictions. I guess that is good for a rogue/priest too which you can make him normally. Chanter would be a good choice too if chanter evocations were affected by secret of rime because chanter has a nice cold evocation but right now those talents do not affect evocations. (sad) With the new patch PotD enemies have another +2 ar so you kind of have to be concious of that on your DDs. (cipher still master race +1 spell pen and +1 weapon pen) Spoiler here my blind first kill of the "Messenger" with a level 14 customized party - he can be tricky if your ai starts to focus on the mobs that appear and don't burst down the Messenger I found because that allows The Messenger to do too many harmful AoEs. go to 3:00 minute mark Edited August 5, 2018 by 1TTFFSSE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtbehnke Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 This thread is heroin. Inject it RIGHT INTO MY FANTASY NERD VEINS Seconded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_krantz Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 My favourite custom party was five pretty aggressive characters named Grishnakh, Gorbag, Shagrat, Ugluk and Bolg (2 pure fighters, 1 barbarian, 1 fighter/rogue and 1 paladin). Everyone with Intellect 3 (although Grishnakh was dangerously clever with 5). They still managed to finish the game, including the expansion, at PotD/Trial of Iron but some boss fights took a looong time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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