[Class Build, Solo PotD] Stop-N-Go (Holy Slayer)

[whimper]

The "Stop-N-Go" or "The Jumping Fortress"* (Holy Slayer)

[*Thanks to Dr <3 for this more evocative name.]

 

Introduction: The idea behind this build is take advantage of several defense-boosting abilities that require you stand still (the large shield modal, Bronlar's Phalanx, Stoic Steel), combined with the fact that you count as "standing still" when you use Escape to teleport somewhere.

 

In practice, this build has two modes. In the first mode we rush into the middle of your enemies with two weapons or a two-handed weapon and get ourself Flanked and Bloodied as quickly as possible. 

 

In the second "Stop-N-Go" mode, we shift to a heavy shield/weapon set-up, activate our stand-still abilities and spam Sworn Rival. This allows us to comfortably sit in the Bloodied/Near Death zone while enjoying a number of abilities that are conditional on being low health. And when we need to re-position to get flanked again, or need to move to take out potential threats, we use Escape to teleport there. 

 

In the latter mode, we're extremely tanky -- we have a high deflection, substantial damage reduction (especially against ranged and reflex-based attacks), multiple sources of regeneration, and a 20+ armor rating -- and we can pull out Lay on Hands in emergencies. And we also have an impressive array of offensive boosts that allows us to quickly obliterate targets around us. 

 

Difficulty: Solo PotD v.2.1 (with Berth's Blessing and level scaling)

• I completed my Solo PotD run using Berath's Blessings and level scaling. Berath's Blessings aren't necessary, but the 50k bonus blessing is recommended, as it will help you get some key equipment much sooner.

Classes: Holy Slayer (Streetfighter Rogue/Goldpact Paladin)

• Rogue gives us a number of great offensive boosts (e.g., Deathblows) and Escape, which is crucial for this build. The Streetfighter specialty adds some fantastic offensive boosts while Bloodied and/or Flanked, which is most of the time. Paladin gives us a number of abilities that allow us to be very tanky, including Stoic Steel, one of the best "stand still" abilities. The Goldpact specialty allows our Sworn Rival ability to provide a temporary stacking armor boost whose cost is refunded when the target dies. And since we kill things very quickly, we can keep that armor bonus up pretty much all of the time. 

Race: Human

• The Human bonuses to accuracy and damage when Bloodied are great for this build, since it's built around being Bloodied or Near Death.

Background: The White that Wends (Hunter, or anything else you like)

• The White that Wends gives a bonus for our most important stat, Perception. There are a number of reasonable choices for background, but Hunter probably provides the most generally useful skill bumps (Mechanics).

Stats: 

Might: Very High

Constitution: High

Dexterity: Very High

Perception: Max 

Intellect: Min

Resolve: Medium

• Perception is our most important stat: since we'll frequently be seeing the massive Streetfighter bonus to critical damage kick in, we'll want to crit as much as possible. And we'll generally have a large shield accuracy penalty to overcome. 
• Dexterity is our second most important stat; it's always nice to be able to do more, and do it quicker. Boosts to Perception, Dexterity and Might are DPS increases that are multiplicative with respect to each other, so in order to be a DPS machine we want to boost all three.
• Might is our third most important stat. It's nice -- it boosts our damage and our healing abilities. But the damage bonuses from the Rogue and Streetfighter abilities will quickly dwarf any bonuses Might provides, making this a lower priority than Perception and Dexterity. 
• We want a reasonable amount of Constitution, to allow us to comfortabley stay Bloodied or Near Death most of the time. But this build gets so tanky that after the first third of the game, that a small boost to Constitution suffices. 
• We want our Resolve to be flat. We don't want it to be too high, because we still want to be hit in our warm-up mode, and we don't want it to be too low, because we don't want to be hit in our stop-n-go mode.
• Intellect is the least important stat, since little hangs on it -- in a solo run we don't care about how big our aura is, we don't have any other interesting AoE abilities, and the only class ability with a duration we care about is Lay on Hands -- and that's partially a good thing, since it gives us more fine-grained control of how much health we have, making it easier to say in the Bloodied zone. 
• For reference, in my run my starting stats were M16, C13, D20, P21, I10, R10. In hindsight this was a mistake -- M21, C13, D20, P21, I5, R10 would have been better.

Skills: For the early game, this can be whatever makes things easiest -- I'd recommend starting with a point or two in Explosive and Arcana to provides some AoE options on the first island, and then some points in Stealth and Mechanics. After that you can retrain to take whatever you like. 

 

In my run I invested heavily in Explosives, but after level 10 I never bothered using them -- it was easier to just kill things the old fashioned way.

 

Class Abilities: (Highly recommended abilities underlined.)

1. Escape and Lay on Hands (You won't use Lay on Hands in 95% of your fights. But it's nice to have for the toughest fights.)
2. Deep Faith
3. Retribution
4. Zealous Aura and Weapon and Shield
5. Dirty Fighting
6. Any (Crippling Strike, Flames of Devotion, Divine Purpose and Inspired Defenses are all reasonable choices.)
7. Sworn Rival and Riposte
8. Any (Snake's Reflexes, Bull's Will, Bear's Fortitude, and any leftover options from above are all reasonable choices.)
9. Any (Ditto)
10. Exalted Endurance and Persistent Distraction (Exalted Endurance is a little funny -- in a lot of fights you'll never even use it. But it's great in tougher fights, since you can turn it on and off as needed to keep you comfortably in the Bloodied zone.)
11. Any (Any of the leftovers from above or Adept Evasion are decent choices)
12. Any (Ditto)
13. Any (Any of the leftovers from above or Uncanny Luck are decent choices) and Deep Wounds
14. Any
15. Any
16. Improved Critical + Slippery Mind
17. Any
18. Any
19. Stoic Steel and Deathblows
20. Any

Gear: (Highly recommended gear is underlined.)

• Armor: Bloody Links (early), Reckless Brigadine (later). You'll also want a set of legendary plate armor for fights against enemies with strong piercing or corrode attacks. 
• Shield: Bronlar's Phalanx
• Weapons:
  • ​(Initial Mode): Any nice 2-hander or pair of weapons will do nicely.
    • A couple nice 2-handed choices: Lance of Midwood Stag (you can start wailing away, and when you get Blooded Woodskin kicks in and you can shift to Stop-N-Go mode, keeping the Woodskin armor boost for a while); Voidwheel (the self-damaging aspect of this sword is actually a perk, since it helps you become Bloodied more quickly); Wahai Poraga (you're often swarmed with enemies, so hitting several of them at a time is nice).
    • If you go with two weapons, I'd recommend Rust's Poignard (with persistent distraction, enemies are usually flanked and you'll get the flanking bonuses) and Stalker's Patience (ditto).
  • (Stop-N-Go mode): Kapana Taga (The Lone Champion enchantment gives you a stacking +4 deflection and +1 armor bonus whenever there are no nearby allies (i.e., always); and the Champion's Relic enchantment increases damage with # of people engaged and increases engagement limit, which is great when you're used to being swarmed.)
  • You'll also want to have the Animancer's Energy Blade as a back-up weapon against high AR targets (which is about half of the fights in the BoW DLC).
• Neck: Protective Eothasian Charm (early): +1 to most important stat (perception) and hefty damage reduction and healing when Near Death? Perfect fit for this build. It's a decent choice for the entire game, or you can replace it with something like Bone Setter's Torc (+ crit chance and + healing for emergencies are both nice) or Claim and Refusal. 
• Belt: The Undying Burden
• Rings: The Ring of Mule's Wit is fantastic with this build -- it drops our Int to 1, but we won't notice, and it gives us resistance to all Mind Afflictions(!). The Entonia Signet Ring and Ring of the Solitary Wanderer are also nice options.
• Hands: Firethrower's Gloves, Gatecrashers, Woedica's Strangling Grasp are all decent.
• Cloak: The Cloak of the Falling Star is great for solo play, and thus great for this build. (Violet Redemption would be perfect for this build, fitting nicely with the stand-still effects theme. Sadly, we can't get it until the very end of the game. )
• Head: The Cap of the Laughingstock looks silly, but it's amazing for solo martial builds, effectively increasing our accuracy by +10. And since this build wants to get as many criticals as possible, to take advantage of the Streetfighter bonuses, it's especially good for this build. (It does make our enemies immune to resolve afflictions, but we don't care about that.)
• Feet: The Rakhan Field Boots are a nice choice, as they effectively give you an additional 1/encounter teleportation option, which also inflicts a full attack on anyone in the way. The Boots of the Stone and Footprints of Ahu Taka are also decent. 
• Pet: Jules (+perception, and bonus to healing is nice for the toughest fights) and Nalvi (+resolve and reduced recovery) are nice options after you get to Neketaka. Avoid pets that give you healing after killing things, though, since you don't want them to force you out of the Bloodied zone!

PROs of this build: 

• It's great against single tanky enemies, since it can last forever and wear them down. 
• Once you get the key equipment and your level 10 class abilities, the build really starts to take off, so we have a fun build to play for most of the game.
• It's really, really tough -- once everything comes together, we can beat every fight on upscaled PotD without having to pull mobs or use consumables. 

CONs of this build:

• Certain kinds of enemies can be a pain (e.g., spellcasters); in these cases we'll want to use Escape to teleport next to the most threatening opponents and take them down quickly. 
• Since you lack AoE attacks, swarms can take a while to get through. You can compensate by investing in Explosives or Arcana, but I usually just hacked my way through them. 
• You won't get everything online until fairly late (level 19). But most pieces of the build will be in place (and the build is fun to play) long before then. 

Edited September 26, 2018 by whimper

[Boeroer]

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

[whimper]

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Oh, nice catch!

 

I'll add that as another good foot-slot option. : )

Edited August 1, 2018 by whimper

[whimper]

Updated to fit in new equipment and consumables from recent DLCs.

[Lampros]

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

 

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Edited October 9, 2018 by Lampros

[whimper]

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Escape isn’t offensive, I’m afraid — it’s merely (“merely”?) a cheap (1 guile) teleport that’s very useful for changing positions/putting enemies between you and some other enemy you don’t want to be near/getting at squishies hiding behind lots of bodies. (It also gives a short defensive boost, but not the selling point.)

 

The reason it’s great with this build is that you still count as standing still when you use it, meaning your stoic steel bonus remains, Stand Firm doesn’t prevent you from moving, and so on.

[Lampros]

 

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Escape isn’t offensive, I’m afraid — it’s merely (“merely”?) a cheap (1 guile) teleport that’s very useful for changing positions/putting enemies between you and some other enemy you don’t want to be near/getting at squishies hiding behind lots of bodies. (It also gives a short defensive boost, but not the selling point.)

 

The reason it’s great with this build is that you still count as standing still when you use it, meaning your stoic steel bonus remains, Stand Firm doesn’t prevent you from moving, and so on.

 

 

Thanks for the clarification. But can't you still use it to teleport to the caster or the archer whom you'd have a difficult time getting to but want to bring down ASAP? I guess I better buy a character from the in and experiment

Edited October 9, 2018 by Lampros

[whimper]

 

 

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Escape isn’t offensive, I’m afraid — it’s merely (“merely”?) a cheap (1 guile) teleport that’s very useful for changing positions/putting enemies between you and some other enemy you don’t want to be near/getting at squishies hiding behind lots of bodies. (It also gives a short defensive boost, but not the selling point.)

 

The reason it’s great with this build is that you still count as standing still when you use it, meaning your stoic steel bonus remains, Stand Firm doesn’t prevent you from moving, and so on.

Thanks for the clarification. But can't you still use it to teleport to the caster or the archer whom you'd have a difficult time getting to but want to bring down ASAP? I guess I better buy a character from the in and experiment

Yes you absolutely can! My most frequent use of the ability.

 

EDIT: I thought you meant “offensive” as in “does damage” : P

Edited October 9, 2018 by whimper

[Lampros]

 

 

 

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Escape isn’t offensive, I’m afraid — it’s merely (“merely”?) a cheap (1 guile) teleport that’s very useful for changing positions/putting enemies between you and some other enemy you don’t want to be near/getting at squishies hiding behind lots of bodies. (It also gives a short defensive boost, but not the selling point.)

 

The reason it’s great with this build is that you still count as standing still when you use it, meaning your stoic steel bonus remains, Stand Firm doesn’t prevent you from moving, and so on.

Thanks for the clarification. But can't you still use it to teleport to the caster or the archer whom you'd have a difficult time getting to but want to bring down ASAP? I guess I better buy a character from the in and experiment

Yes you absolutely can! My most frequent use of the ability.

 

EDIT: I thought you meant “offensive” as in “does damage” : P

 

 

Ah, good!

 

By the way, how does Paladin/Monk combo compare to Paladin/Rogue in terms of damage? I saw crazy fire damage build, but I read later in the thread that it got nerfed to the ground?

[whimper]

 

 

 

 

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Escape isn’t offensive, I’m afraid — it’s merely (“merely”?) a cheap (1 guile) teleport that’s very useful for changing positions/putting enemies between you and some other enemy you don’t want to be near/getting at squishies hiding behind lots of bodies. (It also gives a short defensive boost, but not the selling point.)

 

The reason it’s great with this build is that you still count as standing still when you use it, meaning your stoic steel bonus remains, Stand Firm doesn’t prevent you from moving, and so on.

Thanks for the clarification. But can't you still use it to teleport to the caster or the archer whom you'd have a difficult time getting to but want to bring down ASAP? I guess I better buy a character from the in and experiment

Yes you absolutely can! My most frequent use of the ability.

 

EDIT: I thought you meant “offensive” as in “does damage” : P

 

 

Ah, good!

 

By the way, how does Paladin/Monk combo compare to Paladin/Rogue in terms of damage? I saw crazy fire damage build, but I read later in the thread that it got nerfed to the ground?

I did a solo PotD run with a Darcozzi/Helwalker based on the "Burn Baby Burn" and "No Pain, No Brains" builds, and it was a lot of fun. DPS-wise, it felt pretty comparable -- worse at single target DPS, but the AOE fire blasts really helped speed up fights against lots of opponents. But that was before all of the nerfs to the Monk, and (more importantly) to the key weapons involved. (Sadly, it's now much harder to get the area of effect blasts to trigger.) So my guess is it'll fall behind DPS-wise. But I haven't done a direct comparison since then, so take that with a grain of salt!

 

Surprisingly, I found my Goldpact/Streetfighter build to be much tankier than my Darcozzi/Helwalker build. I'm sure part of this is equipment choice, but I really noticed the effects of not having to eat a +50% across-the-board damage increase... 

[Lampros]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

Can Escape be used like Charge? I don't know what Rakhan Field Boots do, and I have not seen them yet, even though I've gone through almost 2 full games. Any other equipment options that can boost offensive capabilities of Escape?

Escape isn’t offensive, I’m afraid — it’s merely (“merely”?) a cheap (1 guile) teleport that’s very useful for changing positions/putting enemies between you and some other enemy you don’t want to be near/getting at squishies hiding behind lots of bodies. (It also gives a short defensive boost, but not the selling point.)

 

The reason it’s great with this build is that you still count as standing still when you use it, meaning your stoic steel bonus remains, Stand Firm doesn’t prevent you from moving, and so on.

Thanks for the clarification. But can't you still use it to teleport to the caster or the archer whom you'd have a difficult time getting to but want to bring down ASAP? I guess I better buy a character from the in and experiment

Yes you absolutely can! My most frequent use of the ability.

 

EDIT: I thought you meant “offensive” as in “does damage” : P

 

 

Ah, good!

 

By the way, how does Paladin/Monk combo compare to Paladin/Rogue in terms of damage? I saw crazy fire damage build, but I read later in the thread that it got nerfed to the ground?

I did a solo PotD run with a Darcozzi/Helwalker based on the "Burn Baby Burn" and "No Pain, No Brains" builds, and it was a lot of fun. DPS-wise, it felt pretty comparable -- worse at single target DPS, but the AOE fire blasts really helped speed up fights against lots of opponents. But that was before all of the nerfs to the Monk, and (more importantly) to the key weapons involved. (Sadly, it's now much harder to get the area of effect blasts to trigger.) So my guess is it'll fall behind DPS-wise. But I haven't done a direct comparison since then, so take that with a grain of salt!

 

Surprisingly, I found my Goldpact/Streetfighter build to be much tankier than my Darcozzi/Helwalker build. I'm sure part of this is equipment choice, but I really noticed the effects of not having to eat a +50% across-the-board damage increase... 

 

 

Yeah, sadly I think I will need to forgo Helwaker if I go Monk at all.

[whimper]

An update on the difficulty this build can handle: I just finished the SSS DLC on solo upscaled PotD.

 

I won’t say it was easy, though; and two of the fights were excruciatingly difficult. But doable...

[Lampros]

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

 

I tried this equipment for the first time, and it seems utterly ridiculous: It is basically Charge with AoE damage? Whoa.

[whimper]

 

I really like the circumvention of the stationary "debuff" with Escape. I would suggest Rakhan Field Boots: they work a bit like the old Charge (but shorter range): Full Attack on everybody in the path. It's 1/encounter and also works while you can't move (e.g. from large shield modal).

I tried this equipment for the first time, and it seems utterly ridiculous: It is basically Charge with AoE damage? Whoa.

Yeah, they’re pretty sweet. I owe Boeroer for pointing them out to me!

[Gonorrhoeae]

double post sorry

Edited October 29, 2018 by Gonorrhoeae

[Gonorrhoeae]

Thks for this very nice build.

I'm lvl 10 with and just get Akola's Apex Ward.

Enchant :

blood rage : +10 acc & +10% damage under 50 %

  optional :+ perma 5% damage + 3 deflection vs weapon

      

hard counter : cruch riposte 15% chance

       optional : + 1AR

       or : +10% crunch ripost

 

Better than bronlar or not ? lose max 10 deflection maybe but win riposte/+10acc/+15% damage. And very easy to get ( kill all on takano's estate, then ship battle against a prao ... not so hard    )

Edited October 29, 2018 by Gonorrhoeae

[whimper]

Thks for this very nice build.

I'm lvl 10 with and just get Akola's Apex Ward.

Enchant :

blood rage : +10 acc & +10% damage under 50 %

optional :+ perma 5% damage + 3 deflection vs weapon

 

hard counter : cruch riposte 15% chance

optional : + 1AR

or : +10% crunch ripost

 

Better than bronlar or not ? lose max 10 deflection maybe but win riposte/+10acc/+15% damage. And very easy to get ( kill all on takano's estate, then ship battle against a prao ... not so hard )

Yeah, Akola’s is also a great fit with this build. Good suggestion!

 

I should try a couple of the SSS fights, and see how well they go with each shield.

 

(My hunch is that it’ll depend a bit on the fight. In fights against foes with irritatingly fast regeneration, I suspect Akola’s is going to better. In the super loooong fights against foes with thousands of HP and dangerous attacks, the extra deflection, AR, and healing you get from while below 25% health — defenses which allow you to more or less hold steady at 50-60 health, generally healing as much damage as you take — Bronlar’s might be better. But have to test them both out to see!)