Faith and Conviction seems disposition-based party-wide

[omgFIREBALLS]

Anyone know if this is a bug or intended? Did I miss a patch note? It's quite clear to me that this is happening. I have five multilclassed paladins. The Watcher and one more are Shieldbearers. The others are Bleak Walkers. They all have Deep Faith, FWIW.

 

Watcher: +14.1

Other Shieldbearer: +14.1

Bleak Walkers: +11

 

This is with 2 honest, 2 diplomatic, 0 cruel, 0 aggressive, 2 benevolent. I wanted the Bleak Walkers for their ability to sicken, but these paladin orders don't get along at all :/

 

Edit: This is in beta but every time I've checked on live my paladins have always had the same bonus when playing the same order.

Edited June 7, 2018 by omgFIREBALLS

[Boeroer]

With beta you mean the beta branch for patch 1.1?

[theBalthazar]

Already tested by me.

 

Yes, It is disposition based of your Main Character.

 

So !...

 

Ideally if you want max bonus for all = same order for all, relative to you main character dispositions. (even if himself is not a paladin)

 

If not you must conceed few points of defense.

 

The biggest problem is truly for bleak walker and kind wayfarer. Impossible to conciliate. If you are globally agressive and cruel :

 

MC Chanter, and 2 kind wayfarer and 2 bleak walker.

 

Bleak walker x2 will have hightest defense. 

Kind wayfarer x2 will have low defenses.

 

It is not relative to the character himself, but always the Main Character.

 

Watcher: +14.1

Other Shieldbearer: +14.1

Bleak Walkers: +11

 

This is with 2 honest, 2 diplomatic, 0 cruel, 0 aggressive, 2 benevolent.

 

 

Benevolent/Diplomatic : Bleak walker hate that.

Edited June 7, 2018 by theBalthazar

[omgFIREBALLS]

With beta you mean the beta branch for patch 1.1?

Yeah. I haven't checked thoroughly on live but it always seemed like Watcher/mercs had the same value and grew at the same times. Never mixed orders before though.

 

You... you said it would be like in PoE1.

 

*sniffles*

 

I TRUSTED YOU, BOEROER-SENPAI! NOW MY EYES ARE OPEN! THE GODS AREN'T REAL!

 

 

 

Benevolent/Diplomatic : Bleak walker hate that.

I know. There's no confusion over the numbers. I didn't include benevolent for no reason - it has no effect on Shieldbearers - I just wanted to demonstrate some effects. ^^

 

P.S. 1 shady disposition for lying to Arkemyr's imp can go lick rotten koiki fruit.

Edited June 7, 2018 by omgFIREBALLS

[Braven]

What about the companion paladin? Does your dispositions affect her? What does she favor?

[omgFIREBALLS]

What about the companion paladin? Does your dispositions affect her? What does she favor?

The easiest way to check would be to play a Kind Wayfarer while Pallegina is also one. I don't know what the favored dispositions of her Vailian order are.

[Lampros]

Anyone know if this is a bug or intended? Did I miss a patch note? It's quite clear to me that this is happening. I have five multilclassed paladins. The Watcher and one more are Shieldbearers. The others are Bleak Walkers. They all have Deep Faith, FWIW.

 

Watcher: +14.1

Other Shieldbearer: +14.1

Bleak Walkers: +11

 

This is with 2 honest, 2 diplomatic, 0 cruel, 0 aggressive, 2 benevolent. I wanted the Bleak Walkers for their ability to sicken, but these paladin orders don't get along at all :/

 

Edit: This is in beta but every time I've checked on live my paladins have always had the same bonus when playing the same order.

 

I am seeing this issue as well after I recruited a Bleak Walker as a test. Watch is Kind Wayfarer and 15; Shieldbearer is around 12; and the Bleak Walker I just recruited is 10.

 

So your Disposition choices now affect companions as well? If so, then I guess I have to scrap ever playing a Kind Wayfarer together with Bleak Walker!

[thelee]

 

Anyone know if this is a bug or intended? Did I miss a patch note? It's quite clear to me that this is happening. I have five multilclassed paladins. The Watcher and one more are Shieldbearers. The others are Bleak Walkers. They all have Deep Faith, FWIW.

 

Watcher: +14.1

Other Shieldbearer: +14.1

Bleak Walkers: +11

 

This is with 2 honest, 2 diplomatic, 0 cruel, 0 aggressive, 2 benevolent. I wanted the Bleak Walkers for their ability to sicken, but these paladin orders don't get along at all :/

 

Edit: This is in beta but every time I've checked on live my paladins have always had the same bonus when playing the same order.

 

I am seeing this issue as well after I recruited a Bleak Walker as a test. Watch is Kind Wayfarer and 15; Shieldbearer is around 12; and the Bleak Walker I just recruited is 10.

 

So your Disposition choices now affect companions as well? If so, then I guess I have to scrap ever playing a Kind Wayfarer together with Bleak Walker!

 

 

Yeah, I researched this a while ago (I probably should consolidate all this stuff somewhere so it doesn't disappear on the Nth page of forums).

[Lampros]

 

 

Anyone know if this is a bug or intended? Did I miss a patch note? It's quite clear to me that this is happening. I have five multilclassed paladins. The Watcher and one more are Shieldbearers. The others are Bleak Walkers. They all have Deep Faith, FWIW.

 

Watcher: +14.1

Other Shieldbearer: +14.1

Bleak Walkers: +11

 

This is with 2 honest, 2 diplomatic, 0 cruel, 0 aggressive, 2 benevolent. I wanted the Bleak Walkers for their ability to sicken, but these paladin orders don't get along at all :/

 

Edit: This is in beta but every time I've checked on live my paladins have always had the same bonus when playing the same order.

 

I am seeing this issue as well after I recruited a Bleak Walker as a test. Watch is Kind Wayfarer and 15; Shieldbearer is around 12; and the Bleak Walker I just recruited is 10.

 

So your Disposition choices now affect companions as well? If so, then I guess I have to scrap ever playing a Kind Wayfarer together with Bleak Walker!

 

 

Yeah, I researched this a while ago (I probably should consolidate all this stuff somewhere so it doesn't disappear on the Nth page of forums).

 

 

Thanks. It puts a damper on things. Oh well; Paladins still get +10 to every defense; it's just that they won't get the full +5 with Deep Faith if alignments diverge from the main character. So Deep Faith is a waste unless alignment, well, align.

 

Really useful to know at this stage, though!