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I suspect there will be so much SJW in the new movie...not like the previous ones...

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I find it strange that there are people that celebrate Christmas, because in Finland we celebrate Joulu (comes from Germanic Yule), which is just about during Winter solstice (day when daylight time is shortest or like here Sun never rises), which just happen to happen bit after middle of Joulukuu (Month of Yule, or Yule moon), in here northern side of the sphere. We even have Joulupukki (Yule Goat - which those bizarre English speaking people call Santa Claus or Father Christmas and they even often get wrong his place of origin). It just also happens to be the day when Christian world celebrate birth of Jesus their Savior and Christ, even though he was born during early summer months according to bible, but maybe that was too close to Easter (which is also about same time as another Finnish pagan celebration, but that is another story) also Winter solstice was already the most major yearly celebration in Rome Empire, so it probably also was easy festive to nominate for celebrating birth of Saviour by church in three hundred something AD. I know Christmas of Catholic is full of Pagan symbolism, it is because of the Roman want to buy the barbarians with the new religion, so mix Christianity with the original Pagan religion of the European, afterward European being under Roman Pope and Rome relive again in new form..... The Orthodox don't celebrate Christmas as far as i know...and they even have different Jesus birth date.

well, since Christians believe Jesus is God's son, then Joseph adopt him is he not?

Adopted son isn't it? What a "begotten not made" even means?

Jesus is a socialist....all prophets are i think...

Ah...Hibernian conspiracy.....

Most people like holidays. I celebrate Eid whenever I get an invite. Well, that's not celebrating, you just get invitation, for social, neighborhood and friendship...you only celebrate Eid if you take part in the ritual... Good question, its just about the family connections. We put up a tree but there is no religious pray or anything similar So we just use the time for family What is the significant of the tree anyway? When i was little, X-Mas do seems like joyful day though, there are a lot of X-Mas TV special, kid's show, songs...but now it could be a big and sensitive issue...but i don't care, i just wish X-Mas to every Christians... But you are not a Christian...so i hold it

Why atheist celebreting X-Mas?

i. We should not trust the authority ever, that's the first rule Why? Because we are the people, they serve us, not us serve them. It is us who give them power, not otherwise. so if an authoritry tell you this and that, you may demand more details. They should not cover up things from you, they should not imposed their power you given to them on you. But why the people trust these people who told you things and using their power that you give to them, and trust them just because they have the authority you given to them in the fisrt place? You give that power, then they are superior than you? How come you trust organization that you give them the power then they act they are superior than you? Who they serve really? You? Ask them who do they serve... ii. They don't care your lives, do you think they care about your life? They could sacrifice you at any time for any reason. Don't believe it? Ask any war veterans in your country, do the government really care about them? The same with any country, the government don't care. Do you genuinely believe your vote mean a thing? Who are they you put on the top? Do you know them? Do they know you? Why would they care about you? Your vote means nothing. You have no responsible for your choice, after you put your vote in the ballot, you're anonymous, they don't even know you vote for them and why you vote for them. They are on the top because they being placed there by the elites who decide to put them up there. Your vote in the ballot being thrown out into the incenerator iii. They only need to maintain the people sentiment, that's the media job, CIA job, intelligence job. Because they need justification. In short they only need CONTROL. That's what they are doing, controling you. They don't want the people reject the system, they only need to make everything in check. That's the need of all the dramas, all the set ups, all the bull**** you watched on the media. They are all illusions to keep you living in a dream world. The Matrix. iv. They don't care everyone know about them, because like i said in other post, they know how you think, how you will react, how you will take it, as proven you laughed at conspiracy theory, that just prove the point. As peoples in the Matrix you will refuse if somebody told you "you are in the Matrix", you cannot accept that, you will reject it. No matter how buggy the system is, because you are depend on it, you live with it. You don't want to change the way of your life. That's the reason, that's the key, that's how they manage to operate, they know that. v. I never claim all conspiracy theories are true and must be accepted, but denial for the sake of denying is a build up attitude. It is a defense mechanism spring up when someone told you things you don't want to hear and refuse to believe. Facts doesn't matter when you have put up your mind on things. They told you the world is round you believe the world is round, that what being indoctrinated to you. Even though you never see with your own eyes the world is round, you believe it just because you believe it. Actually it don't need any evidence for that. Evidence come later. When people say "no the world is flat", automatically you will react, rise up your defense mechanism, you ridicule that claim, and ridicule the person who make that claim. The world is round or flat is doesn't matter here because both you and the one who claim the world is flat, never see the real world. The world is round or flat? If you ask me, i simply say "i don't know...but round world look convincing..."

I think my favorite part of conspiracy theorists is that they're convinced everyone is a bunch of sheeple that can't figure out the big bad media is lying to them. Instead, the reality is the conspiracy nut websites are lying to them and taking stuff heavily out of context to fit their own narrative. And why? Because people love to feel smarter or a step above the rest of the population, so the very people writing that garbage are probably too consumed with the possibility to connect obscure dots to notice that Occam's Razor takes a giant ****ing dump over everything they wish to connect. Too busy weaving their story that puts themselves on a pedestal for seeing the "truth" to be concerned with actual facts. because reality bites...you claim the peoples are so smart and bright, the real thing is the people believe in authority, the media represent authority, "from authority". You can test this yourself, you can disguise as a police and told anyone to do your bidding, they will do it....you can make it in advance way, just claim to be a scientist and give a bullcrap theory like the flat earth theory you will get fans, and your theory will become a science cult, you will have followers...it is because you are a "scientist" who talk about "science"...only smart people will debunk you. The people are not smart, the peoples are cows... While there are certainly cases where this is true, if there were truly such an intense desire for oil that the US media was ready to commit to theatrics to make it happen, a conspiracy against Saudi Arabia would've been concocted long ago. Instead, Saudi Arabia and the US are BEST FRIENDS FOREVER, with the USA simply acting upon any outrage or misstep by an oil-bearing country as an excuse to go in. Furthermore, if this is all a conspiracy to turn people against muslims, please explain why the flying **** the USA decided "ok last time we went to war with a muslim country, 9/11 happened. This time, let's have two muslims shoot a handful of people. THAT SHOULD SUFFICE." It is because they have tell you a big lie and you buy it, a small lie is suffice to make you believe. Once you believe their big lie, you will just believe their small lies. All they need to do is playing sentiment and put oil into fire. That's what happen to the mob...just accuse someone of something and begin to beat that someone up, all others will join you to beat someone up because they hear that someone is like what you accuse...example, a woman just scream a guy want to molest her and start beating the guy, the guy react and slap her...the people passing by see that and beat that guy because assuming that guy is a bad guy, or the police passed by see that and arrest that guy...without a video or CCTV no one know the guy is innocent...it is because the sentiment have been set, guy cannot beat women and women are weak... The same here...

I watched the video, and he said it is not him I quote the article. He said it is not him, then it is not him. That's the truth, not him

It is all the same...hoaxes to make Islam and Muslims look bad...wake up western people...they do all these for oil, Muslims who hold oil of the world, the west want our oil and so making all the bullcrap about Muslims to gain your support in what they're doing You can make the change by not believing in their lies anymore...we can live peacefully...want our oil? You may ask nicely and buy from us...

it was not them, witness said... http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/12/eyewitness-to-san-bernardino-says-it-wasnt-couple/ Several eyewitnesses and family of witnesses and victims initially said that three athletic Caucasian men had been responsible for carrying out the attacks. Police immediately banned them from speaking with the media. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWrSdY0NWgg

Ah...all those come from your source, bias source...

You don't believe your own media?

Based on what i watched through the years in your own media....i say i will be in fear walking on the street in the west wearing hijab.... So yes...maybe you guys intention to lie is not negative, but it is still a lie...it is a "white" lie

You say I musn't think you are ignorant but your posts make it very hard for me not to think that It has been explained to you many, many times that you can't generalize about Western culture...yet you keep doing it.. You keep making posts that generalize about things in the West.... So I ask you again, whats the point of these videos? Are you saying that is how Muslim women are treated throughout the West? What you guys saying is not not what i see in your media, you can't blame me, your own media showing that. See how those people even support the stereotype the actor is saying about Muslims even that Muslim woman actor declare herself an American. How a free, liberated and civilize people act like that? And not just this video, there are alot on You Tube, social experiments and real life videos showing Muslim treatment in the west....you cannot lie to me because i see it all through your own source. It will be bias if i am using my own source isn't it? But i am using your own.

Watch the video, the whole point is there... That's how your free, liberated and civilize people treat a Muslim woman... Don't act like i am an ignorant, remember that i am watching American and European medias, i know more about you than you know about me... All the sources i used for my arguments here in the forum come from your own.

Is this the reality of "American liberty and freedom"?

I don't just making claims here...I am using your own sources all these time....

My point is your politicians talking **** not even aware of there are Muslims in your own army, obviously showing who they really are, racist bigots So what is all about Islam and Muslim bashing on Fox News, CNN, and all Jew funded media? Your politicians don't even care about your own people, they only care to use you for their gain, that's why they talk as if they don't even know there are a lot of Muslim in their own army who going to war with Muslim countries Trump is an example of a puppet who paid to do what he's doing

Anyway back to topic... Turn out to be all these are just hoax.... http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/12/07/san-bernadino-hoax/

Not really, there are plenty of Republican supporters on this forum and they not racist