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ally and oz?

gotcha, makes sense. thanks.

I think the defense will be very good (the weakness being the secondary), but grossman needs time to grow and terrall isn't exactly who I want the ball going to

careful with the "erm's", they sound like your not happy, that might get the thread locked.... The MCA quote: Until told otherwise I error on the side of MCA

From IGN:

And how many people saw that before you posted it? I sure didn't. I pretty much expected it would be out in February. I would've thought others shared a similarily reasonable expectation but some have disappointed me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just because you didn't see it doesn't change the fact that it occured now do you admit 3 things: 1. It is strongly suggested in a post by a dev that the PC version is prepared to be done for the holidays and the reason for the delay lies elsewhere in LA. 2. LA made a public, as anyone who knows the site could get to it, that stated the game would be out for the holidays on both platforms. 3. we were promised both versions come out at the same time Care to disagree with any of that?

actually, they DID say it was coming out december in a press release, see my press website post also, unless you doubt a dev working on the game, it IS LA fault that the game isn't out in Dec

but wouldn't that require you to come down off your high horse?

send them a case of Guinness instead, I'm sure they'll appreciate that.

IMO, scrambling QBs will only get you so far, then they will get you killed. and I hate college football. The system is just so bad (bcs, iirc?). Too many bowl games. You need a playoff system.

D.O.A. <_< You try, that's what counts. BTW, did you hear how choyrt did via the 2nd hurricane, I never heard back. O and: Toyota Tundra and a motorcycle. I'm compinsating.

Yea yea, Vicks great, but the Falcons arn't going anywhere

Yea, but see...they have to do this thing where they take an educated guess ...crazy I know. If you are suggesting that Akari, in a very recent post (3 months from the games release), doesn't have a good idea where both versions are of a game he is working on....

thats not a lie, just a broken promise

Is it really a lie if things change because of unexpected developments? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Reread Akaris post and tell me if you think thats really the case Sorry if you wern't, I just did't see who else you could be talking to.

Wow, I'm just talkign about a game being delayed.....but you went over the deep end

Well besides all the information above......there is Akaris post: Just because it's ahead of schedule, doesn't mean that the pc wasn't either, as he says: "*we* expected to have both of them ready at the same time"

that is not the case

First, does anyone really expect an "offical" reason? "Offically" there is no delay, as in LAs mind Feb equals=winter 2004, and the press memo wasn't a public one. The international release seems to still be Feb. It looks like the release for that would be both platforms. One of the reasons I hear behind the PC version being "pushed back" is fear of piracy between now and Feb. (EDIT: aka if the PC comes out here in Dec, people in Europe will just get that before the X-box one even hits there) That and LA doesn't think the PC version will do much buisness anyways. Now, this was all a bit of a surprise to Obsidian, and they (yes I know I'm speaking for them) are "pretty pissed ". There is only so much they can do about it tho. The reason you don't hear more from them = if you don't have naything nice to say about your publisher.....plus Akari seemingly summed it up. The PC apparently, at least in performance terms, is easily shaping up to be the better of the two (The textures are double the resolution). So imagine if you worked on this game (weekends etc.) and then you get told the neutered version comes out well before the high performance one. While graphics arn't everything, you want to put your best foot forward. The first version(s) to come out will be the ones that will get all the press and reviews. That is how people will know you. Specially since this is your first game.

The reasons you should be upset (as upset as a video game should make you): 1. As of Aug LA was telling the press that BOTH the pc and xbox version would be available for the holidays. That is, up until this latest release. (non-international). There hasn't been a "good" reason for this to change. Worse yet, it would seem that if LA wanted Obsidian to, that the PC version would be out for the holidays (certainly not sometime in Feb). The PC game, from my understanding, is just about as far as the X-box one. Unlike Halo, they are being brought along at the sametime. We were told that they would be released together. That is, up until this latest release.

....I don't want to talk about football anymore........ Lions 20 Bears 16

You know, I feel bad for the devs. After working weekends and late hours to finish both versions, one just gets sweeped aside because LA doesn't feel much like releasing it.

Well, it's not a "public" announcement, so it's not "official"....... BUT, you have to ask yourself, if it seemed so likely that both would make it out that they put out a press kit listing it for Dec last month......then what changed? Answer: nothing, the PC version could very well be ready for Dec (in the states), and that is "official". LA wants to delay the PC version and have.

http://www.lucasarts.com/vip/ You can find k2 stuff on it at the bottom, nothing new now, but the concept art is always HQ. An interesting note: In the holiday guided at the top you will find a memo that indicates that K2 was set to come out by the holidays as early as early Aug. No indication of a staggered release is given at the time. enjoy EDIT: the K2 related memo chunk, dated "August 2004" (it was out early Aug), if you don't want to dl the guide: so this was about a month ago