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BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
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Whenever I go back and play old games I always find there is about 15 minutes of adjustment to the retro graphics, but after that I don't even really notice them anymore. Regardless of how bad they are, they just become "normal". However, it does become a bit more difficult if you are constantly switching back and forth between shiny new graphics and retro. For my part I am generally not at all worried about how an old game looks, but if I will be able to get it to run without spending hours working on it. I still shudder at my attempts with DOSbox some years ago.
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BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
Yeah, that's my bad and I apologize for it. But I felt it was an appropriate response in that instance. -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
I still play it. I have an old 486 laptop which I use for some older games. I understand the criticisms of the game, but it remains the most complex and living single player gameworld ever created for a crpg. edit: It is a 2d game. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
For me that seems like an pretty awesome and solid list. X2 is a space sim, right? How does it compare to Tie Fighter and Freespace 2? Its more of a trading/empire building sim than a straight combat sim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Universe#The_X_Universe Yeah, I tend to agree. I think Arcanum is fab and in some areas it comes close to or even passes Fallout. The depth of the world building and the role-playing options for example I think exceed those available in FO. But sadly, its weak points are much much weaker than anything in Fallout. Fo example, combat is Fallout was pokey and a bit reptitive at times, but in Arcanum the combat is just god-awful. A lot of missed opportunities there. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
The best thing about that is that he got killed by something. I mean if Bethesda can make the game world actually threatening and imposing, it would go a very long way toward making the game more atmospheric and engrossing. Again we know level scaling has been changed: its now done by section and it locks in at the level when you first visit that area. So at least it is different from Oblivion, but I still have a hard time understanding how it will change the gameplay without actually playing it. We've also been told that there are things that can kill you regardless of the level scaling if you go there too early. So that's good as well. -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
*wants* -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
See, now you get it, you're making generalizations too! All's right with the world. Anyway, I'm going to bed. I don't know. That's always what I am told whenI say summer blockbusters are always so lacking in character. I mean there are always exceptions, but I think the standard thought on summer blockbusters is that they focus on action first and charaters second. Intenionally. ANyway, good night sweetie. Thnks for kickin my arse for a while. Its always fun. -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
We aren't having a private conversation, this is a public forum. We (anyone is this thread) are talking about the third (fifth) game in a series, so other games in the series are relevant. Wait, though, I'm confused. When people are saying bad things about Fallout 3 and they bring up Fallout 1 and 2, aren't they immediately told to stop bringing up old versions of a game that aren't relevant to this nextgen FO3? Well, I'm assuming that there will be night and females to some degree. But mostly because bethesda already showed they know what night is and what females are in Oblivion. They did it well enough. I've got no complaints. However, they did not show they were good at creating dialogue and meningful interactions or a sense of significnace to gameplay and gameworld and your actions in it. All they are showing me now is they still don't know how to do it. Perhaps in a couple weeks they will relese some gameplay footage that will prove me wrong. That would be awesome. But so far nada. Of course they are relevant, this game is part of a serious. I actually agree with you, but I just wish people would say the same thing when people are saying less positive things about FO3 and using Fallout 2 and 2 as a basis for comparison. Before you said "I focused on it, bceucase Pete Hines focused on it." If it's not important why even bring it up? Is it really necessary to discuss every single thing that Pete Hines ever says about the game? Using your own logic we shouldn't even assume that there are many beards in the game, after all they weren't shown in the video, we haven't seen them with our own eyes. Why talk about Hines mentioning beards when you can talk about Hines discussing your actions having consequences? Anyone with basic comprehension skills can tell you that not everything in a conversation should be given equal weight. For example I could mention now that I like pie and I'd like to think I'd be right in assuming you won't think that my liking pie is the focus of this post. Then again maybe me and Pete are giving people too much credit. Or maybe folks just like to pick bits out of interviews and previews that appear to validate their own views. *shrugs* I just thought it silly that he went off on beards when there are so much more so important content questions that need to be answered. A wide variety of beards is great, but it won't make the quests any better. Unless there is a quest that uses disguises and stuff, I suppose. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
WHat are my favorite games? I mean, you would know right, considering all the time we've spent hanging out together talking about this stuff. Well let's see, why don't I refresh your memory a bit. Here's a list of ten of my favorite games. Not my most favorite, just ten that come to mind: Daggerfall Thief Fallout System Shock XCOM Jagged Alliance 2 STALKER Wizardy 8 Master of Orion X2 Hmmm, that looks like a pretty standard list of favorite games doesn't it. A lot of games that a lot of people like. You may not like them, of course, but please don't make it sound like I am off singing the praises of Daikatana and Dungeon LOrds. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
Promotional material focusing on style rather than substance is nothing new. When you see trailers for summer blockbuster movies do you wonder why they focus more on action than character development? Do you think everyone who watches movie trailers also has a subscription to Empire? Umm, because summer blockbusters are generally all about action and character development is pretty much unneccessary or even distracting? If that's the game Bethesda wants to make, I'm not going to disagree with their right to make it. And at the moment, It appears that is precisely the type of game they are making. Possibly. I don't know marketing so I really can't say yea or nay, as it were. There is nothing wrong with taking a "wait and see" attitude, but when you only do that with anything that sounds good, while assuming anything that sounds bad is the absolute truth and representative of the game as a whole, then it's obvious you've already made your choice. I havent made my choice about anything. WHat I have seen so far is not promising, however. My hope is that they still haven't finished working out some of the gameplay issues outside of combat and so don't yet feel comfortable showing them. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
Whatever gets your knickers in a knot. Sounds like a boring weapon to me that I probably won't bother using. I have more of an issue with Fallout 2 featuring both imaginary generic weapons and specific real life weapons. One or the other please. I also don't try to claim it's anything more than a personal gripe. Why are you bring up previous iterations of Fallout? I never did. So it's either "everything in this game is serious" or "everything in this game is silly"? Basically you've decided that Fallout 3 is a silly game that shouldn't be taken seriously because it includes a launcher uses junk as ammunition. As long as that's in the game nothing else matters, and you want Howard to "admit" this so you can be proven right and give yourself a pat on the back. Nope. Totally wrong interpretation of what I said. I am trying to rationalize the things Pete Hines and Todd Howard have said about the game with the things they actually shown us in the game. If TOdd Howard says the world is serious and dark and then makes a big deal of shooting raiders with teddy bears, then I try to make those pieces fit together as best I can. Of course a game that is dark and somber and gritty and mature and adult (I believe Pete and TOdd have used all these words to describe the gameworld at variosu times) can have moments of humor and levity. But don't just show us the levity, show us the grimness and the darkness as well. But they refuse to do that for whatever reason. SO I'm left with the assumption that the focus in Fallout 3 is going to be goofy humor and exploding bodies and nuclear explosions. Because funnily enough stuff you might fun silly or humorous isn't the focus of the game, just like the previous Fallouts! What do the previous Fallouts have to do it Fallout 3? They were made by a different company and different developers ten years ago. Since when does mentioning something equal focusing on it? Please provide a link to the interview he gave in which beards was the focus. Now you definitely shouldn't read that interview I linked because at some point Pete mentions humour. He also talks quite a bit about achievements. You heard it here folks, Fallout 3 is going to be all about achievements and everything in the game is going to revolve around collecting them. Todd Howard should just come out and admit it. He talked about it in his fan Q and A. I posted the link a few pages back. As I recall he brought up the beard thing without even been prompted. So I guess he thought it was worth talking about. I agree he probably doesn't think it is the most important thing in the game. But I don't either, which is why I added it back into my post as an editl. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
So what are you saying, that crpg fans are the only ones who can read? That Bethesda has a innovative marketing strategy of putting all rpg-releated info into text and all goofy blow stuff up into video? Is that the article where the person doing the playthrough tralks about meeting the boy in the town overrun with ants? And he has dislogue options that range from being polite to rude? And the kid tosses off a couple fbombs? Here's dialogue from one of the main quests in Oblivion. The Battle for Castle Kvatch. Its from memory, but I believe its totaly accurate: Savlian Mattius: Where is the count? WHy is he not with you? PC: Reply 1) I'm sorry he didn't make it. Reply 2) Face down in a bucket of blood. If you choose reply 1, Savlian gives you his (crappy) magic armor. If you choose reply 2 his dispositon drops and he gets all pissy. Other than the use of Fbombs, I fail to see any difference between that and the ant town dialogues with the kid. What we are told is that there are larger impacts of negative responses in Fallout 3 then Oblivion. Great. Nobody's actually really seen that in action yet, as far as I know. We were also told the radiant AI in Oblivion was going to be groundbreaking. It turned out to be retarded. I don't think there's anything wrong with holding off taking their word for something until I actually see it. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
It's just another weapon. It's not a "crappy design issue", it's just something you don't like. See: Pop's post. Fixed. Actually I do think Howard is pretty bad at showing off games, but then you're pretty bad when it comes to what to focus on, so it all evens out. See: beards. Read that interview I linked to. No, on second thought, don't bother, becauseanything that sounds remotely positive probably isn't true anyway. Obviously. I think I already read that one. Its hard to keep track since they are all pretty similar. Its not just another weapon. Its a ridiculous weapon used in a ludicrous way. If Todd Howard comes out and says: "Fallout 3 is a farcical game where you shouldn't take anythingly seriously in it; it's all just meant to make you laugh" then fine, the junk launcher fits right in. That's not the way he and Pete Hines have been selling Fallout though. The beard comment was intended just the way you read it. I focused on it, bceucase Pete Hines focused on it. That was my entirely my point. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
I have no doubt the junk launcher is just a small part of the game, an easter egg to some degree, as Sand points out. Which is fine, OK, I can ignore it. I ignore tons of crappy design issues in Oblivion, so ignoring one small one in Fallout 3 shouldn't be a problem. My issue is that Todd Howard obviously think's shooting teddy bears at raiders is cool. He thinks it cool enough to show off repeatedly on an E3 playthrough. He doesn't think that shooting teddy bears at raiders clashes with all his talk about a serious and mature and dark and gritty gameworld. If he doesn't think so, then there may very well be other bigger issues with the game. Right now, I see a game where the focus is blowing body parts off of people in slow motion, nuclear explosions, and teddy bear combat. That's what I see because THAT IS MOST OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SHOWN. If Todd Howard has more depth and content that wil show me that there is more to this game, then all he has to do is show it and I will shut up and stop trying to guess what the game is going to be like. edit: I forgot about the beards. Most beards ever in a game. Or something. Haven't actually seen that though. Just what we've been told. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
True. But even the idea of a gun that hurls junk is pretty insipid. From what I understand part of Bethesda's design approach is to throw stuff against the wall and see what sticks. Probably some dev asked: "What can we do with all this junk that we are putting in the loot containers?" And some other dev said: "I know! Lets make a gun and let the pc shoot all their junk at enemies!" and they all laughed and said "WOw what a great idea! All the hoi polloi will really love it." I woudl have prefered to see a Feces Flinger that allowed me to fling giant chunks of super mutant poo at my enemies. Now that's a chuckle! -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
I don't care what the game is like as long as it doesn't suck. And frankly, shooting teddy bears at raiders smells like suck to me. Not so much the actual act itself, but if that is the tone Bethesda has gone for, if that is the level of silliness and irreverence that they have gone for, if that is what Todd Howard thinks is "cool" in a crpg, then well, hmmm... -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
Is your avatar out of focus or are my eyes broken? -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
True, but nobody in this thread is hitting anybody in the face. It's all quite serene really. -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
I would locate your neck by doing a mind meld first. I would also discover your planet of origin and any innate species flaws. -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
If I were a Vulcan I'd give you a neck pinch. -
BREAKING NEWS: NEW EXCLUSIVE FALLOUT 3 TRAILER
Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
I'm not saying it is a desireable aspect of human behavior, but it is human. And we are humans, here, mostly. Not vulcans or something with a total iron grip on our emotions. AT least I'm not a Vulcan. ... I'm assuming most of you aren't either. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
I really shouldn't be stirring this pot but not getting the game you want which never existed in the first place = getting dumped and being heartbroken? So... priorities? I have little to say to the actual current discussion except deja vu. Haven't we already been here before? I wasn't trying to compare a computer game with love directly or equally. I was merely illustrating that bitterness tends to be one of the potential side effects of caring. Somebody who doesn't care will never feel bitterness, because they don't...care. -
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Slowtrain replied to Llyranor's topic in Computer and Console
Well, if you care about someone and they blow you off or dump you or whatever, it can often lead to bitterness, for a while anyway. Its a human failing that we all share. I'm not going to condemn someone for that, personally. Regardless, there's nothing about this thread that says: "only positive comments, plz" As WoD says, constructive criticism is probaby more useful and interesting, ideally, but it is certainly not, nor should it be, a requirement for posting. I think. -
No, no. I would not assume that. Twas not my point. My guess is that computer game developers are pretty much like any other skilled job force: some work really hard and are really good at what they do; some don't work hard but are still good enough to get by; some work really hard but still aren't very good; some don't work hard and aren't very good but they are the son of the CEO. My point was that developers do not always make games that work. For whatever reason. SO to trust that they will always know and do the right or best or even a workable thing is a crapshoot. Nothing more than that. Sure, that's logical, but a development company can only make the game that they're making, it won't ever be another game... Also, one person's pile of poo is another persons shining jewel. Everybody produces broken results sometimes. I'm not singling out game developers.