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Paramore: "Fences"

From First To Last: "Secrets Don't Make Friends" 311: "Whiskey And Wine" 311: "Amber" Sublime: "Ball And Chain" Sublime: "One Cup Of Coffee - Don't Judge (Bob Marely cover) Hate Breed: "Destroy Everything" Rage Against The Machine: "Bulls On Parade" Great Lake Swimmers: "Your Rocky Spine" Sum 41: "Fat Lip" Aiden: "Moment" Blink 182: "Roller Coaster" Blink 182: "Another Girl Another Planet" Blink 182: "Josie" THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.......

THE HEADLINES READ: GEORGE LUCAS HELD HOSTAGE BY CRAZED SWKOTOR FANS Maybe someone will write the continuation of k2 that we want . *HINT! HINT! HINT! OBSIDIAN* (if they're even listening) They would probably even make nice money off a book. Though... a k3 game couldn't be beat. =(

the future of k3 doesn't depend on the releasing of a game. it could be a book and i'd be happy. if you can convince LA that there is mounds of money around the releasing of k3 (game, book, movie), there is a chance. i have to partially agree with the DeathScepter. everything about swkotor rests in the hands of the fans. if the majority of fans want k3 (not the MMO), that's what they'll get. although.... the chances of the majority of swkotor fans refusing to play the MMO is slim. =( I for one... will not play the MMO. end of story. that's what i mean when i say that the possibility of k3 rests in the success of failure of the MMO. FANS, UNITE!!

The possibilty of k3 all depends on how well the MMO goes. Maybe if the MMO bombs out, they'll say "Hey! Maybe a continuation of k2 -that's not a MMO- is a great idea!" If the money they made the MMO for doesn't show up.... maybe they'll see it the fan's way. Don't bury swkotor 3 just yet... I'll wait for the feedback on the MMO before I throw myself on the coffin, crying with grief.

kreia gives you the option of leaving like revan or staying (like her). if the exile does leave like revan, then he/she would have to leave everyone behind. who said that the exile couldn't fly a ship? who said the exile would even have to fly the ship?

I will agree with the majority. The ending was bad. Though... not as bad as it could have been. Think of it this way: The open ending will leave room for K3 (if there is one) to step in and explain what the heck happened. What happened to, The Exile, Atton, T3, HK-47, and Baodur? Kreia said that others would be needed to fight the sith. I always liked to assume that those were those others. Atton in particular. =) I wonder why all the chicks like Atton so much. sweet pic babydol!!

Has anyone read the Artemis Fowl novels? Is he up to Douglas Adams' standard? Well, I bet he can do the goofball humor because that isn't too hard. In fact, every now and again I read the Hitchhiker's series and suddenly I'm spouting off the same goofball stuff all over the place. What the hard thing is about Douglas Adams standard is making plots that make sense and characters that you care about while doing the goofball thing. Personally, I didn't like the Artemis Fowl series. It was silly and stupid. The only good character worth reading about was Butler. The idea of a boy genius chasing little people around made me want to kill myself. No!!! He's not up to Douglas Adams' standard (at least not in my opinion)!!!!

I like Leo Tolstoy as an author because he understands the hearts of men so well. Although I have read some of his longer works, I find his short stories far more interesting.

Kotor online??!!!!! *Screams* EA can eat shist for all I care. BioWare... what happened baby?? I thought we loved each other. *cries* MMO??? MMO??? WHY!!!!!????? If there is anything we can do, it is to voice our displeasure. Well??? Who's with me? We'll start a massive hate mail. send all your messages to my aim e-mail (located on my obsidian page). I will take on the challenge of doing this. just leave me your message to BioWare and your first name or your user name on obsidian under your quote. This means sssooooo much to me and i'm willing to fight for what i (and everyone else) wants.

Zombie capitalism is always the best way to go. Maybe they like the taste of brains more than any other body part. Ear tacos. If zombies did take over the world, i wonder if they would have a "Zombie Food Network". Zombies randomly coming out the ground isn't a problem. Zombies as a result of a virus or some scientific experiment gone bad would be a BIG problem. For all you non-Americans know we could have already developed such a virus. Then again...Switzerland has a black hole generator. We were the first to make the atom bomb. Who knows what crazy **** we'll come up with next! Although... the way both our economy and elections are going... we'll be screwed in a couple years (if not by the end of this year).

1. How many zombies are we talking about? 2. I live in the country. so... i can live of the land. 3. My father owns three chainsaws. 4. What kind of zombies are we dealing with (it makes a difference)? 5. Are they slow and dumb (i love those kind) or fast running and quick to learn (God help us!)? 6. My neighbor is a avid gun collector (got to love that pump-action shotgun).

hope is all we can do.... i don't think that the "chosen one has come yet" neither Anikan or Luke brought balance. what really pisses me off is that no matter how many times the jedi destroy the sith (or vice versa) there are always survivors. the cycle is never ending!!! oh well... i guest that's just life... good points esabria! *clapping* i hope to see some positive news concerning k3 come out this year. (off subject) it's almost my b-day!!!! yay!!

Nihilus lost in no small degree because the exile had an advantage Nihilus was totally unaware, but which Kreia knew full well and exploited to secure Nihilus' defeat. The exile is a wound in the force and has no force power of his own, so the moment Nihilus tried to drain him, he sucked a void or vacuum, which essentially meant his doom. They guard their higher powers far more than the jedi and so they seem more secret. The jedi can share knowledge of power, but a sith never could - a sith's greatest enemies are other sith, not the jedi. As Palpatine would say, all who hold power fear to lose it. It is and remains the player's choice. Revan's motive is whatever you want it to be. I don't think K3 will mess with that, mostly because there is no reason to - Revan is out there fighting the true Sith, and that's all the plot needs him to do. Well, Kreia said as much. She said the exile was the greatest she ever trained, which would mean greater than Revan, since she trained him as well. Then again, the exile being a wound in the force is something Kreia both admires and needs for her cause. The exile can resist the will of the force. There is nothing to suggest Revan could ever do that. So it might be argued Kreia liked exile more for that ability than for any choices made. Kreia is a difficult one to figure out. Malachor V is unlikely to appear in K3, since it was destroyed in the LS ending of K2. Besides, neither Korriban nor Malachor V are in republic space. I don't think we'll be playing Revan or exile in K3, though. More likely a new pc with Revan and exile being important NPCs in the plot. I'd see some initial part of the plot in republic space, but the majority in the unknown regions finding and fighting the true Sith. Lots of Sith worlds we know little about like Ch'hodos, Rhelg, Khar Delba/Khar Shian, Thule or especially Ziost. I don't think it's obvious that Revan wanted the republic to survive in TSL unless he is set to LS. If DS, you might as well argue that being unwilling to use the Starforge, Revan could not marshal enough forces to take the republic, so he might have sought out the true Sith to become their leader and then use those forces to attack the republic. I mean, that's a possible scenario, isn't it? Nope, it's fact because George Lucas says that's how it is, and his judgement is ultimate in Star Wars. If George says Palpatine is the most powerful Sith ever, then that's it. If he says Anakin is the chosen one, then so he is. We can love or loathe that all we want, it won't make any difference. true. i disagree with the statement that the jedi appear to have no unique powers because they share power freely. give me some examples of jedi that have powers to match the greatest of sith lords. kreia is hard to read. that's what makes her interesting. she is probably my favorite charater of all time. =) i didn't know that korriban was outside of republic space (i don't know everything). i know my hope for malachor V appearing in k3 is a false one. still... i hold those hopes (it's dumb... i know). so... we agree with the exile theory i expressed earlier. THAT'S GREAT!! either way revan let the republic survive. therefore... it was his will to let the republic survive (even if he was going to kill it later). that is a possible scenario. it's a good one as well... doesn't lucas arts opperate outside of george lucas?? even if he is the creator of star wars... is don't much like george lucas. then again i don't know much about palpatine... besides the fact that he built the empire and pretty much destroyed the jedi. do you know anything about palpatine's adventures before he became a senator and leader of the empire?? anakin wasn't the chosen one was he?? wasn't luke the chosen one??

Why? None of them have suffered injury that would make that relevant last we heard. Besides, KotOR already had that with Malak. But nobody says the exile must follow either choice for good, and given that the first one is the same as for the LS ending, which one is the exile likely to have taken by the time KotOR3 begins? My point is that TSL tried to reconcile why Revan had chosen to go and seek the true Sith regardless of whether you chose the LS or DS ending in K1, even though those endings were pretty different. By the same token, the exile ends up in a similar place in TSL, setting the stage for a KotOR3 plot where the starting positions of Revan and exile are already in place. I thought Saul Karath, because his child would be hated in the Republic for the sins of the father. I mean, if this child was force sensitive, how would even the jedi respond? Surely even they would be reluctant to teach the child, fearing it might take his or her father's path. What better ironiy would it be to have a such a person become pivotal to the fate of the galaxy - will this person save a galactic republic that hates him or her, or will he or she against it out of revenge for the treatment. Lots of character potential right there, I think. Well, yes and no. Kreia says Revan was powerful, but then she's not exactly the most impartial source, being his old mentor and clearly very proud of it. It's almost as if regardless of al the terrible things Revan did, she prides herself on how significant Revan has been to galactic history, perhaps because she is bitter over how her own teachings have always been scorned by the jedi and so never allowed her to achieve her own goals, so now she takes pride in the accomplishment of the "child" she has raised. Kreia is a mother-like character and very proud of her "son" Revan. Berating the exile for his or her missteps frequently comes with ill-hidden references to how much better Revan did things. Not that I disagree Revan was powerful, mind you. I consider Revan among the most powerful sith/jedi of his age. As for hearing about the childhood of Revan and exile, no thanks. I agree with qt-pi (heh - just got that ) that their pasts is whatever you want for them as pc of their game. This is especially true in Revan's case because his motives for "falling" to the dark side is for the player to decide. Was Revan seduced by the dark side or did he, as Kreia speculates, never fall but instead made a choice to become something terrible to serve a greater good? That goes to the heart of who Revan is, and you can't delve into that without interfering with motives that are for the player to decide. This is one thing that TSL handled really well by letting characters speculate about it but not giving evidence for. It has created a few problems too, though, like some fans who now insist that Revan is so powerful that even the dark side itself cannot control him, that he is beyond corruption, and than he only took the mantle of sith lord to gain more power and only did horrible things to the republic in order to prepare for the coming struggle with the true Sith, who would have done worse to the republic anywat (insert unspoken 'so who cares what evil he did to the republic' here). the whole "robotic voice" thing was more of a joke than a suggestion. i agree. your choices LS/DS mean nothing in effect to the story. it is ultimately the choice of LA as to where the story ends up. saul karath's child doesn't really appeal to me... sorry. there is character potential there though... well... i take back my comment about revan being "a plain old jedi/sith" he did have some ability. Maybe not so much force wise but... when it came to dueling and leading armies revan probably owns. i'm more of a fan of the old sith (the ones buried on korriban). Darth Nilihus was bad ass... but... he got his ass killed by the exile (though Nilihus probably would have won if he wasn't weak from hunger). the sith seem to possess more unique force abilities than any jedi ever could. i don't know why revan did what he did. i don't think anyone does... yet. i think kreia thought more of the exile than she did of revan. don't even try to fight me about that one. you know that one's true. my main argument about the exile was that you probably won't be playing as him/her in k3 as a main character. i want k3 to be played outside of republic space. the only places i would want to go in republic space will be either malachor V or korriban. the game (k2) makes it pretty obvious that revan wanted the republic to survive (for whatever reason... good or evil). no sith being a powerful as Palpatine...?? that's bull. there are tons more powerful force wise. palpatine building the empire was just good planning on his part. the truth is... revan vs. palpatine one on one... revan wins. revan vs. palpatine... revan with army... palpatine with army.... revan wins. palpatine's death was unimaginative. he got picked up and thrown into an engine... how sad is that? jediphile, when you said something about zapping the rakata when they got basic wrong... i got the funniest picture in my head. good stuff jediphile... good stuff...