Judge Hades

Then they should remove the 3 by the name. It should be Baldur's Gate: "Enter Subtitle here"

Nah, I rather they make a good science fiction CRPG or better yet... Take what they did for NWN 2 and make a d20 Modern/Future equivelent. I would have such a joygasm if they did that.

Well, since every console "CRPG" that I have played has been rather simplistic, from Adventure! to FInal Fantasy 10 by my experience that console CRPGs are simplistic and those of console origins or made to have console aspects to them are just as simplistic. Frankly, there has been only 1 console CRPG that I was a challenge to me and that was the Sega CD title Dark Wizard, but it was a mix of CRPG and Tactical war game. Very well done I have to say.

This is the Internet. You'll find no facts here.

Last I heard BG3 was going to be a cellphone game.

Personally I think that it would be crueler to build him up to trust again, then betray that trust and laugh at his own stupidity.

They are the reason why.

If you played things out right, you could.

I didn't like FF7 or FF8.

Yeah, but KotOR had many faults because of its console origins. One being that it was rather simplistic.

I have particular tastes and I am a PC gamer only. That's just the way I am.

That does sound pretty lame.

Good for you.

I have played 10. I wasn't impressed. Good CG sequences doesn't make a good CRPG. Diablo meets 2.5 out of 5. You might think they meet all 5but it is so shallow that there is nothing of significance there.

What? I am missing out on lame FInal Fantasy games which are all basically the same thing. Kid with big sword saves world. Whoppie. Oh how able that Peter M, POS called Fable? No thank you. The BG Dark Alliance games, which I did play the first one and it was completely disappointing. 12 hours on hard using the sorceress. SNOREFEST! Yeah, I am really missing out on so much.

If you say so, but in my experience in KotOR if you stand around with enemies, the AI takes over and uses base attacks which most of the time kills the enemy, except the under water bits, without significant threat of death on the part of the character.

It does for me and since it is my money being spent, I determine what is a CRPG and what isn't for me.

Not true, because I don't consider consoles and the so called console CRPGs to be worth my time. None of them have been really worthwhile in playing. Yes, I have played a few. Didn't like them.

I don't play consoles so they are irrelevant to me.

When leveling up is a major part of character development and showing your character's experience, it is forced. Not leveling is an artificial control and metagaming and metagaming is just as bad as munchkin gaming.

Darque, there are no real conversations in Diablo. You couldn't intimidate, joke, lie, and have a genreal chit chat in Diablo. There was no real choices in how you interacted with NPCs. It ws either hack or not hack. Also how fast you took out the baddies were completely based on the player's speed of pressing the button. Nothing to do with character skill. I can't comment of GTA: SA because I haven't played that game, and I doubt that I will.

Never played Nethack, nor do I want to.

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Well, it is forced on you in the KotOR games.

Man, you people are so paranoid. :D