Mortis Nai

Weekends for me are usually filled with Movies, grab a bunch and have them on in the background. if they are good they will attract my attention and I will actually watch them engrossed. If not, I will watch them while doing other things. Winners this Week. Jacob's Ladder I was told to watch this months ago and I have had it kicking around. When the Silent Hill Movie was released I played through all 4 games and then watched the movie so I sort of burnt myself out on this sort of style. That and I went on a Month long Exploitation kick... if you ever get the Chance to Watch Cannibal holocaust... Don't. Not because it is a bad movie but because your psyche will thank you for avoiding it. Any who, Finally watched Jacobs ladder yesterday and it blew me away, I couldn't believe how much influence this movie has had. Normally you can see where a movie has influenced others such as Eraserhead, but certain things from Jacob's ladder have literally been directly lifted and re marketed. Wonderful, wonderful movie... I only wish I had seen it earlier. Night/Dawn/Day/Land of the Living Dead (Had a craving to watch them all in a row... original Dawn, not the remake, seen that one time to many) There classics, what can you do? All these years and I had never sat down and watched them all back to back... an atrocity I know, but at least I have corrected that now. Thank you for Smoking You need a light hearted movie every now and then, and it helps that I recently quit smoking. Not a bad movie, it is what you expect it to be and nothing more... pure hollywood entertainment. Now I'm off to start another Movie Binge today. Suicide Club Watched it before but missed the ending as I was late in watching it and had to take it back, so I am rectifying this mistake. Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Son of the Bride of the Return of the Revenge of the Terror of the Attack of the Evil, Mutant, Alien, Flesh Eating, Hellbound, Zombified Living Dead Part 2: In Shocking 2-D (For fun.) After all the George A. Romero movies, this seemed like a light hearted, fun spoof to watch. Dead Alive (Braindead) To make up for the Spoof Zombie flick.

I'm not sure what you're implying. These are not the official NWN2 boards, any NWN2 threads here are allowed because they're part of general gaming discussions. If you have some sort of problem with the official boards, you should take that complaint to the official boards. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Of that I have no doubt, But reading through all of this thread (Both parts) I noticed some similer themes in how this sort of a discussion is being handled. While I know and Understand these are two vastly different forums filled with very different moderators, its a similer flaw that happens in almost every forum. You either have to enter into a discussion with the Moderator Badge flashing, in there in an "Official" capacity, or you enter into it as a member of that Community because it is a subject you wish to express your own opinions on, and allow someone else to play mediator, otherwise it comes of as biased. Much like children, an online community needs a firm sense of where the line is drawn (Where ever that may be), when the line keeps on changing position because the Moderator is involving themselves into the debate it becomes rather confused and can quickly get out of hand. Because there has been so much heat surrounding NWN2 (Like the release of any new game) and NWN's has an already established and verbose Community, with a great deal of history, it is a little difficult not to allow yourself to be drawn in, and in that sort of a situation a perfectly valid point becomes more fuel to the fire of all involved because someone with "The Badge" is saying it. As much as the general Community needs to chill out and step back, so to do Moderators need to be more aware of the role they play in it all. As I said, I meant no insult, I am just attempting to make the point that everyone is equally responsable for allowing things to be blown out of proportion. I take my hat off and give a great deal of respect to anyone trying to manage all of this right now, because it truly is a loose loose situation. I could not agree more, but you cannot expect everyone to be fully articulate in there point. Some people do not have the time to write out long and pointed posts, some people lack the ability. But there is a great deal of trolling that is going on and people need to remember that by not adding fuel to the fire the trolls eventually go away. People seem somewhat tense, and making knee jerk responses to people that normally they would exercise better judgement and not give people whom are trolling the attention and conflict they desire.

Patches, Expansions, Premium Modules and Community content will eventually make all of these issues mute. What Obsidian does not Change or further develop, the Modding Community will. However if people are not allowed a Voice to speak what they feel those issues are, then it Leaves the Developers blind and deaf to overall Community demand. One person asking for something to be changed is one voice, and a demonstration of a very small portion of the player base, 50 voices is large and 500 larger still, and if all of them bring up the same general points (Duel wield from A Quickslot as example) then market research tells that it may be an issue that needs to be looked at. The negative side effect of this is that the general forum community has to see and plow through 500 threads about the same things, that general end in heated or outright volatile arguments... which acts as a huge disruption to the Forum Community at large, which justifiably so is aggravating. However, that is one of the reasons people keep forums, not just to give like minded individuals and place to share there interest, but to allow consumers a voice to speak directly to those in charge, as well as to represent a fraction of the customer base. Things ill eventually settle down, the game will become more polished and but attacking each other in the hopes of shooting down other planes in the sky is counter productive on both sides. I mean no disrespect, but I think many Moderators on both these forums and Biowares are equally responsible for perpetuating and mismanaging conflict. What I have seen is either a Complete lock down of anything Negative, or allowing discussions get out of hand and throw in there own sniping comments. While I understand it is difficult to be an authority figure, and a member of a Community, standing behind the "Badge" as defence of a "holier than thou" attitude only serves to cause even more friction. I think the Moderators need to get together and reevaluate how they will manage and Moderate the current situation.

Something I wish to add in my own defence here, seeing as how several sniping comments have been made about the "101 things wrong with NWN2" post. The reason it was written, was that there was an overwhelming sense on the "Sour Grapes" thread that no one would pay attention to it, that peoples issues with the game were so widespread and scattered, or buried underneath a mountain of trolling... that the legitimate complaints would be lost. So myself and my Wife went through the Sour Grapes thread and listed the problems presented there in in a cohesive structure and order and adding our own, using the '101" thing as a nod to all the "101" posts that were released during the prerelease frenzy. The sad part of that is that after hitting 101, people started sending me addendum PM's wishing to add even more issues that they had with the game, that had not been included with the "101." It truly was an attempt to bring to light a full list of peoples stated problems with NWN2, in the hope that they would be brought to Obsidians attention and something would be done about it, rather than them being swept under the carpet and ignored. The sad thing in all that, is that the list has been used as either a substitute for free thought or as an excuse too Troll. I would like the think that it was successful in that goal, as the 1.03 patch makes most of the "Quick fix" problems mute such as duel wield quick slot & the Camera, which as i have stated before gives me a great deal of faith for the future of NWN2, and thus the 101 list is a mute point along with it. I do not hate the game, far from it. I am an avid and rabid fan of the NWN's series, I spent 4 years of my life playing NWN's and I want to do the same for NWN2... But there were and are so many issues with the game brought about by shortsightedness that it seriously hampered my own enjoyment of the game. The attitudes I see in this thread and others in all honesty disgusts me. To quote from another thread. After reading through both threads, this entire discussion has been railroaded to little more than childish bickering and name calling which does little good and only serves to further cause friction and tension within the NWN's Community at Large. The Way that i see it: 1: The "NWN2 Guardians" need to chill out and allow others to have an opinion, perhaps even going so far as to attempt to see that other people have legitimate complaints even if those issues or problems do not effect them personally. 2: The "NWN2 Complainers" need to be less aggressive and provocative and take a far more constructive approach rather than attacking everything in site. 3: Obsidian Devs need to be a little more reassuring to both sides of the fence. One side is seeing "NWN2 is perfect and flawless!" in the press which further enrages and adds credence to the feeling that "The Devs are not listening." And the other side needs to have some reassurance that the "Complaints and Negativity" is not going to destroy the NWN2 franchise, as it seems that many people feel that any form of negative criticism upon the name is going to make NWN2 and Obsidian go under. While it is difficult to find that happy medium and balance, in all honesty this is now your Community and it is your job (or at least the job of those you delegate to) to bring peace and restore the middle ground. Perhaps publishing a list of Issues that you are aware of and are looking into fixing, as well as plans for NWN2's future such as the possability or ideas for expansions/Primum Modules, and what you hope to see in the future of NWN2... would save many, many people a great deal of agronomy.