CaesarCzech
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So According to you Ghazi did nothing wrong ? What opinions were "scathingly racist, sexist, xenophobic and slanderous". Tell me. "I will continue to 'mix' it up until one of their boyfriends jacks me with a pipe." (re: black women) I don't see how this is not slanderous, racist and sexist, for one. The assumption that black women are inherently adulterous aside, the attention given to interracial sexual relations here or in other comments like the proposition to ban unmarried Muslim men from entering the EU really speak for themselves. The fear of the loss of Western ideals before the exposure to other cultures, as well as the implied notion of keeping a 'pure white race' alive was already old-hat by the time Lovecraft was basing horror stories around it a century ago. Also I never spoke of Ghazi. Do I think they did nothing wrong? Of course not, they're trash. But I won't assume that the comments made were any less derogatory and as has been addressed by me and several others before me, you are jumping to far-fetched and unfounded conclusions because of it. You are not fan of interracial sexual relations ? As for the Unmarried Muslim men thing, I dont see what is racist about Suggesting EU should adopt Canada Refugee policy. And the black woman things can be simply two fetishes. one for married women. I seen such people and i dont apreciate your kink shaming.
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Understood im just afraid that might be goal of some posters.
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But it does not have to. Don't be afraid. You are the norm. You are per-fect-ly normal. I can assure you. It is statistically proven. Nice attempt to dismiss my argument and imply that im somehow afraid of LGBT people. Im familiar with this type of character assasination
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Indeed. At the moment there's an awful lot of jumping to conclusions. That's all really. And with that said, please lock this thread, dearest moderators. You know this makes you look bit desperate to avoid backslash. I think it be better for there to be one thread than let it spill out. which would honestly happen if it were percieved people were censoring discusion.
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So According to you Ghazi did nothing wrong ? What opinions were "scathingly racist, sexist, xenophobic and slanderous". Tell me.
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it may reflect it but doesn't define it. May you point me to where I suggested it does? Also, while you're at it, explain how it's relevant. i think He meant It Isnt defined by it. And that would also be relevant
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i wanted to discuss what this could mean moving forward, It can mean Obsidian will be working very hard to avoid anything controversial, Tiptoing around and that could impact the quality of the writing and story, For example the Raedric hold in PoE 1. Hell the whole Religion thing in PoE 1. Seeing how Deadfire begins with a god literally eating our protagonist's soul, I'd say your concerns are entirely groundless. A single person distancing themselves from the company because they said stupid **** on the Internet does not indicate anything. You're just trying to drum up outrage. I never said that obsidian Will suddenly become EA because of this. Small steps. Im worrying about this being start of the slippery slope
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it may reflect it but doesn't define it. How could even fiction define real world ? Fiction is not some reality warping book.
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Look i know it can be hard on some people but companies are not obliged to represent you. And point is there is always finite ammount of resources and i dont think Obsidian has endless resources. Furthermore look at the Gay and Lesbian representation, already the 7-8% percent of population gets significant representation(with some extremes such as bioware taking it to 50/50) Especially Compared to the Percentage of the General population. What i want to say is that there are dimishing returns the lower the percentage of the population, you essentially use the resources such as time to create content for The smaller percentage of players and there are dimishing returns when it might not be worth it.
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Same as trolls and clickbaits. Coming from Pole. But seriously lets not Derail the thread.
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I saw post previously by the writer himself on RpgCodex that he was preassured but cant find him. Also Im more interested in impact of this controversy moving forward and If this doesnt signal worse quality of story and storyline We all know PoE 1 had some stuff That could offend people. I for one would not want Obsidian to change Thaos or the Gods plotline because it might be controversial. I dont want public perception to degrade the quality of writing by essentially chaining the writers imagination.
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i wanted to discuss what this could mean moving forward, It can mean Obsidian will be working very hard to avoid anything controversial, Tiptoing around and that could impact the quality of the writing and story, For example the Raedric hold in PoE 1. Hell the whole Religion thing in PoE 1.
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Should it? No, that restricts creative freedom. it can be if they want it to be, but should it be? no. Fiction is not obliged to reflect real world and neither is it Obliged to not reflect real world.
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English is not my first language. I will try to run it throught spell checker and edit it.
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http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/06/game-writer-resigns-after-social-justice-warriors-crucify-him-for-conservative-opinions/ Honestly while these are not Opinions I'd endorse, It doesnt seem to me, That this should have blown up as it has. I'm seriously afraid of what might happen/ Will the situation repeat another time with less controversial remarks because of the slippery slope of Appeasment ? Will it impact the story ? because if this company encouraged the writer to resign because of this, It could signal that Obsidian will shy away from the deep writing and avoid Philosophical questions and other things that could be considered remotely controversial, and That could make it significantly harder to create Great Game like the KOTOR 2. I dont even know If Raedric Hold would make it into the game. If PoE 1 were made today, The Atmosphere certainly changed with certain segment of population believing that Art should not be sorely for Art but for the message and for the influence of said message to "guide" the society. I think there could be Worthwhile discusion of both this case,what it might signal and in general the direction obsidian might be taking in terms of story, storytelling and ultimately Narrative.
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They also aren't necessarily false either. I know its possibly its true. But we dont know so far.
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There's no evidence that he even left, let alone got kicked. For all we know he's still working on the game. And stop with the strawman and trying to create drama where there isn't. Im not creating drama i want to know the reality behind the situation.
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We don't know that this writer was kicked or even pressured out of their job. It's not a particularly unusual move for a contractor who suddenly finds themselves in the midst of a controversy to step back from their other work of their own volition in order to avoid tangling their clients up in their controversy. What controversy when he was victim of witchhunt ?
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So i guess Kicking People out of jobs for their opinions is okay with you ?. I mean this might just be Sign Obsidian is moving More Mainstream. and we all know what Mainstream means. Obsidian didn't do anything. He resigned before they could even react. Seriously, man. You don't know what you're talking about here. Let it go. Thats the Official story. Official stories arent always true.
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So i guess Kicking People out of jobs for their opinions is okay with you ?. I mean this might just be Sign Obsidian is moving More Mainstream. and we all know what Mainstream means.
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It's not Eric. I figured out who it was with a little digging, but since the name hasn't been mentioned in this thread I agree with Flow that it's best if it's not. I have no idea where the idea that this was Edér's writer came from. Okay So i was Mistaken In Identity of writer. But i was not mistaken in the fact Writer was "Resigned" for his opinions.
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to write Edér. Can we stop with all the nonsense now? So its not Eric But Writer Was still Resigned because of personal Opinions. I dont know about you but while thats less concerning that if it were Eric its still Quite concerning.
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See Above. I still think it Was Eric but Person claiming Itself Informed Claims This happened 1) A writer was hired recently to do some contract writing work for Deadfire 2) That writer's posting history at RPG Codex was uncovered and posted by parties unknown 3) The writer decided he didn't want his opinions causing problems for Obsidian and resigned 4) There is NO evidence anyone at Obsidian asked him to resign Imho Official story. If It turns Its not Eric. I ask mods to Change the Thread title to simply So Obsidian Writer "Resigns" Because of his opinions and it appears this is similar situation to Firedorn Limerick Imho while the Eric part was Concerning, I believe the whole situation Will still be Concerning if it turns im Wrong and The Write "Resigned" is not Eric.
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Wait which one is it If its not him ? It seems to me its Definitely Eric Anyways If you are right(Im not sure about that)that actually confirms the rest with writer being resigned because of his views. I'm not going to name names at this point since the whole thing needs to die, but here are the facts. 1) A writer was hired recently to do some contract writing work for Deadfire 2) That writer's posting history at RPG Codex was uncovered and posted by parties unknown 3) The writer decided he didn't want his opinions causing problems for Obsidian and resigned 4) There is NO evidence anyone at Obsidian asked him to resign So you are not Going To post names because you want the whole thing buried ? Why Would you want it BURIED If Obsidian Did Nothing wrong ? If It would absolve them of guilt there is no reason to try to direct this thread into obscurity. Also Do you always believe official stories ? Furthermore I seriously fail to grasp what Problems might Obsidian face if He didnt resign, Can you enlighten me on that Topic ?
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Obsidian did not back down because they did not write the controversial thing in question. I don't see why they should go to bat for somebody who is not them. They gave the guy a chance to respond and he did. And that was that. Firing employees over stuff that is not even in your game is something else entirely. You are already insisting you have confirmation that what you say is true when you are not even sure who it is you are even talking about. I was merely saying That Obsidian Backed Down Once. It Makes sense They would also Back Down Another time especially for things that Certain groups may see as more serious, Never i implied that these Things are EXACTLY THE SAME. i WAS JUST POINTING OUT The Common Thread. The Common Link. namely Obsidian backing down.
