seejai

that is the best song in the world. no doubt. i currently am listening to white stripes. they rock.

i like all of the old nintendo songs. hehehe mario is awesome. zelda too. not really a soundtrack but still....

So we are at an impasse... that happaned sooo long ago lol I believe the major difference between religion and belief, is that religion has an absolute doctrine that is unchanging and cannot be proved upon... unlike science where its beliefs are self correcting, peer reviewed etc... Where as the bible cannot be, but i think the bible could be personally improved by sayings from basic philosophy, even saying something like though should not harm your children. I think you misunderstood. I mean there is religion, and then there is belief in a higher power, and the two are different things. I suppose the latter is required by the former, but you can believe in a higher power without subscribing to a certain methodology. yes i am antireligion but i have beliefs i think u explained that pretty good. it seems like i have a much easier time excepting that ppl can believe evolution than ppl have excepting that i believe in creation. for me, the fact that theres agreat improbability of it all just happening at random and us all being designed so complexly (even with survival of the fittest) is a bit of a disprove for me. dont get me wrong, i know thats not proof of anysort for you guys

like i said... that proof isnt enough for me and mine wont be enough for u

OMG. im getting a whif of deja vu. isnt this why we had to start a new thread. i doubt they're taking long on purpose. i think its cool that there doing it and maybe they want to have a life other than modding so i think that its great that someone is actually doing it and im pretty sure there not getting paid so they can slack all they want (which theyre not!) so i think we should all be positive and supportive !!!! everyone just be happy gosh darnit

what i am trying to say is that if you have faith in God its obviously proof enough for you. im talking more about beliefs which we dont need to go into Faith is not proof. wow i've said like 40 times that this is basically a proofless subject. no ones gonna find proof that will prove anything to the other person. i said that for me, personally, faith is proof

yep. i have work tho not as early. its 2:30 here. sleep tight and dont let the bed bugs bight!!!! (im not high im just tired)

If we used your logic gravity would also be called into question, as there is at least as much -if not more- evidence for evolution. oh boy u found evidence that works for u. u win!!! *gives cupcake*.... did u forget that i dont care anymore. u got ur cupcake, we're both obviously hard headed and bad at debating bc nothing was proved to the other

like i said, lol, im gonna do something more worthwhile

wow u know im tired when im bidding my farewells to ppl in a thread that ive been making my attempt at debating with for the past hr lol

yep lots. we'll have to do it again sometime in the meantime i'll sleep and find tangible facts or something of that sort

we've crossed the line. i didint know evolution was proven! isnt it a theory which is a explanation with backing facts. when we start dealing with absolutes thats when i leave. but if not deal with absolutes... why talk. then theres no... conclusion of anysort AND ive allready said several times that there is no "proof" for creationist. not the scientific facts u want

wow im so tired i just decided that i dont care. i've been talking for an hr but it doesnt really matter bc there are things like starving children and wars that are more energy worthy. obviously we are here and um yeah. save the whales!!!! before they evolve in to a blubber lamp.... or something

nevermind.... im mostly talking to myself. like i said, i need sleep. i wasnt refering to u anyway

omg i love that movie!!! i like the part at the opera. *sigh* bruce willis in his prime lol

Creationism USES RELIGION, PREFERABLY CHRISTIANITY AS ITS DOGMA when trying to prove that there's an invisible creator behind everything. They cherry-pick parts of science wherever it fits them. It's against the very philosophy that we call the scientific method. i think creationism is based off the bible and i think ur confusing the bible for religion.

oh yes... im afraid i just insulted an insult. a sign that this thread uh, is now void of any meaning (did it have any in the first place), yeah and i just mildly insulted the thread which by my standards means i should probably go sleep or something

I was trying to be nice with you and give a short, basic example. If you require something else that just scratches the surface in terms of evolution, go to a library and read a book, like the one Deadly_nightshade said. Evolution isn't something that you can answer within short answers and one-liners. well thanks for at least answering instead of a lame insult....

you have no idea how different faith and religion are. religion is rules. and faith is... faith. personal. i dont seem to be getting anything i said read with any.... openmindness so once again i have 10,000 better things to do

i refuse to read that bc i hate doctrine and religion. dont think im a person who is religious. im something else entirely. well they maybe not giving it a fair hearing but hey it seems mutual. since you wouldnt even look at it and i bet if you did like i said you cant just put the fact that its christian behind you and look at the scientific facts. u claim that creationist dont use facts and scientific method, well theres a creationist actually using facts and u shut it down before u can see it for urself

id watch it but i actually cant with this computer right now. trust me im not claiming religion.... i dont like religion

i believe something else about those...... which no i dont feel like explaing. but are there anyothers??? any ones that are of other species and more..... evidence like. ( if a few monkey to human fossils is all you've got dont bother..)

any skeletal form that in the process of evolving from one creature to another. something that you can actually see that the two are changing and not just magically turning into the other. well some sort of fossil that shows a stage like between the two creatures

Oh yes, a movie found on the internet is going to overturn decades of scientific research! as are gaming nerds-like myself- on a forum on a website for a company that makes video games ....... now theres a place for good scientifical facts

ok lets pretend that dont i actually have an opinion about this and i just honestly want to know, where are the transitional fossils? i want to know bc if there actually are some maybe i should look at my beliefs.... and if theres not maybe you should look at your opinions. instead of an answer you just tell me im a fundie who knows nothing of the subject. would a simple answer be too much to ask. or must you just avoid one by saying stuff like that