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Ok thanks, so I didn't do any big mistakes in the end;) Glad to hear that. Now I'm gonna go and add Hiravias and GM to the party. Do you recommend changing someone? I used to have Sagani before getting Pallegina, but now my dps is higher..

Sounds good. The fact that I can have zealous endurance makes me feel more "shieldbearer" as the character is otherwise very in tune with the bg (Shieldbearers are usually elves from aedyr, and that I am..) So I'll respec and take zealous endurance. Other thing is the group. Currently: Me - ranged arbalest Eder - melee sword&board Kana - ranged arquebus Pallegina - melee 2hsword Durance - melee staff (many doubts about this) Aloth - ranged scepter/wand/implement Would you change someone/something?

You're right, I didn't mention I use zealous charge. Since I have Pallegina in the party, I have zealous focus enabled. I want to switch to zealous endurance. I was thinking about going melee sometimes, but I'm still not too sure, since I like the sniping ability a lot. I love this MC because I get a strong RP experience, plus he is a natural leader, and fits the party excellently. Just want to have a little more impact on the combat, so I also took Gunner a little earlier, but I'll admit it's still very slow. Thus the idea to also go melee.. but I'm undecided atm..

Turnabout: I'm going on with my current MC. It's too long to just restart and do it all over again. The Character is quite good as it is, and I thank you all who have been patient with me. Keep you posted. Slight edit: What if I try to focus on protecting others with stuff like zealous endurance? Does my ranged status weaken my auras due to distance?

Sweet. I’ll try gp then. Oughta be cooler with scion of flame... even though +10ac on fod for everyone isn’t bad..

Does that mean you use her ranged? I send her in the fray with a 2hander... am I wrong in doing this??

Torm, I agree with your point of view, but other than that, there's pure mechanics.. I mean.. gold pact have fire dot.. but darcozzi.. give nothing to my benefit, and wayfarers which are usually awesome are almost no use while ranged.. I want to continue with the main idea: the sniper that opens combat, it's really fun and strong, Elric was great in giving me the build, AND a good story! Maybe o just want to go stoic, just to vary a bit from the usual good and honest pally.. but still evaluating... For Elric: the sworn enemy is something I don't use frequently.. I can't open the combat with it.. can I replace it with something else?

Where are you my friend?

Yeah I've taken a look, and seems fun to play. Though we got two different approaches to combat it seems.. your pally relies on mind control and cc in general, while mine's purpose is to weaken (or take out of possible) the main threat of the encounter. Usually I scout a little ahead, then FoD the mage or the boss for a good 70ish damage right away. Then when the fight begins, I send him back and send Eder and itumaak on the front while keeping aloth Sagani and kana back, and boosting everyone with durance. It's very unlikely that I go melee, and I focus on honest and diplomatic due to st. Elcga. Think I'll take pallegina asap. Not sure about hiravias, can't find a place for him.. what about your party? Edit of the day after: Someone of you posters in this thread told me I could also go Goldpact. Elric if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure I want to go on with Shieldbearers, 'cos it's too.... similar to Pallegina, which I literally ADORE having in the party.. Elric can you please tell me what to change if I go Goldpact and what bg suits? Thanks a lot! (Other posters welcome of course, it's just that he was very kind in helping me..so credits due )

Thank you! I didn't know such thread existed! Right now I'm on the pally, but will move to cipher next playthrough!

And the pally gets to Defiance Bay, and starts hitting things So I ask you some questions, in order to improve my experience: - Isn't there any way to improve shooting/reloading speed? My pally is a sniper, yes, but awfully slow.. Dex is average, and I try to use Kana's singing to hasten things but...to little avail. - Are there any occasions in which my shieldbearer lore will be used? For now, there hasn't been any... - What's the best party? I got Edèr, Aloth, Sagani, Kana, Durance.. Thanks for your info.

What ability/skills? Never played one so I don't know what's best..

Noone?

Thanks to the op for taking the time to answer me. I, like you, am very much into the rp aspect, and like the cc.. right now I got my paladin which fares well enough, but think that ciphers shine when it comes to rp and they can use storm caller... just waiting for an optimal build.

Hi to the OP. I've seen you played and finished the game with a ranged Cipher. May I know the build? In another thread I'm trying to come up with this kind of MC in order to use Stormcaller bow. Thanks !

That's great, but I'd go ranged to get the bow later.. and min max is something I don't like, since I play easy.. I rarely drop something below 8

Oh my bad.. I didn't think of the starting focus... that opens back again for ciphers anyone got a build?

Well.. I reckon that cipher is a good char, but he lacks a specific asset: He can't open a fight. While a ranger can open a fight with an arrow, a paladin can open with a FoD and so on... the cipher must accrue focus before being able to use any strong ability... That makes the main difference between 'em. Too bad that the bow only works with 3 classes... but at this point, I'll keep the pally. With 18 Int he'll have a quite large AoE with SI... This is the only plan I can see..

Don't judge me wrong... I am very happy of your character design. I'm just a "perfectionist" who likes to have as much as I can I believe ranger to be a little less interesting than a paladin.. but.. well.. in future I may try. For now, if I may go with paladin and get AoE I'll be very happy.. If there'd be a MC that does many things AND goes AoE it'd be wonderful, but alas, I'm no fan of casters and Chanter...has always seemed dull to me..dunno why. Little ps: Are ciphers considered proper casters? I like them, because of their mental twist to the usual casting.. so for me it'd be viable..

Already have her in party. But I'm looking for a MC who does AoE... Sure I'll give her the bow eventually. The pally does awesome damage with sworn enemy+FoD.. It comes to about 90 dmg atm... 5th level..not bad I'd say... But the speed is awful and it only targets 1 enemy...thus my question. Thanks for the info, though Elric, most helpful. If the pally could wield some AoE weapon, I'd be happier...

I'm getting a little confused... It's a lot of ideas, and I don't have the time to test all of them, I must try the most promising...which seems to be the ranger so far. I know there can be lots of builds, but... I'll build a ranger, if I get enough side info. Such as: which animal is best? (or it doesn't matter..) which race? Stats? and so on..

Cipher is not bad.. huge rp too... even though ranged ciphers seem to be the minority.. aren't they tough?

Yes it's AoE.. don't know what can stack with it though.. master Boeroer knows for sure.. Edit: I told you he knew

Yeah.. heard of it.. the bow. Must it be a ranger or anyone can use it? Cause.. what do you do while you wait to acquire it?

So to sum it up.. it's just chanter or barbarian.. there's no such thing as an explosive arrow or similar.. pity that. And to make an AoE paladin I have to stay almost melee.. I can go towards quick shift... but that'd change the nature of the mc..