bigwillystyle Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 I am one of those types that hears "Something's underpowered? THAT'S WHAT I'M PLAYING!" My first run on POTD was with a Paladin prior to the patch changes that improved them. I went back to fool around and saw that the Kind Wayfarer talents scale now. My goodness. ANYWAY ... So barbarian's are underpowered? I am trying to figure out the best way to play one in 3.02, and I think the Firebrand route is the way to go. This one is only level 6, and on it's way to the White March. I could use some advice on mid game decisions. Early build structure based on Nerd Commando's guide, Boeroer's Riptide Ranger guide and some testing with Maneha at level 10. The Shod-in-Faith boots are amazing with this stat spread. I literally can't die & the Firebrand cuts through everything with a massive carnage radius (practical INT is 22 with bonuses). I haven't played this build at high levels, but a level 10 Maneha chews up mobs. It's literally like watching the D&D game Temple of Elemental Evil with the Greater Cleave talent. Swing firebrand. Pause. Swing firebrand again, >1Mob dies, BLOODTHIRST, no recovery bar, swing Firebrand, >1 mob dies, no recovery bar, etc ... Lordy. Key questions for folks: Recommendations on > lvl 8 talents / abilities? Anything you would change on the stat spread? Overkill on CON? I have to admit it's nice to not die. Strengths: - Nigh impossible to kill at low levels. - Chews through mobs like a blowtorch. Add a Priest's Dire Blessing and things die in a big, big hurry. Weaknesses: - Low concentration. A Priest is pretty much necessary - from lvl 2 onward, it was a constant battle opener with Holy Meditation for the +30 Concentration. I also have a batch of Spirit Shield potions (HELLO finally a use for all the trash River Reeds). - Accuracy is just OK. Not fantastic. A Paladin is helpful - Pallegina's aura has helped cut down on the grazes. - Only three Firebrand uses per rest, but frankly Firebrand isn't needed every fight. =================================== FIRE, FIRE, FIRE =================================== Difficulty: PotD v. 3.02 -------------------------------------------------------------- Class: Barbarian. For teh sweet, sweet, Carnage. -------------------------------------------------------------- Race: Boreal Dwarf. One weakness of this build is the low perception - in Act 1 / Act 2, in combo with Resting bonuses, this is a good mitigator. Not sure how we'll do in the WM though. Death Godlike could have been an option here. -------------------------------------------------------------- Background: Living Lands / Colonist -------------------------------------------------------------- Stats: MIG: 21 <- is this overjkill? I really like the healing from Shod in Faith so high MIG seems key. CON: 19 <- is this overkill? When testing with Maneha, she was getting KO'd at times DEX: 8 <- seems low, but testing with Maneha indicates Bloodthirst is just that good PER: 10 <- perhaps move some from CON or MIG? INT: 18 <- I should have made this guy Vailian for the extra INT, it's awesome RES: 3 <- thanks for the tip Boeroer! -------------------------------------------------------------- Skills: Stealth 0, Athl. 3, Lore 0, Mech 0, Surv. everything else so far -------------------------------------------------------------- Abilities/Talents: ??? - indicates not sure what to take - could use advice. Hunter's Instinct Carnage Frenzy <-- The speed helps given the low Dex Savage Defiance <-- Not all that useful, literally haven't used it since picking up Shod-in-Faith One Stands Alone <-- Not much else worth getting Bloodthirst <-- Getting at lvl 7. This literally seems to make the build. I'm not joking. ??? Probably Thick Skinned at lvl 9 ??? ??? ??? Weapon Focus Soldier Two Handed Style Scion of Flame ??? Probably Accurate Carnage at lvl 8 ??? Probably Savage Attack but concerned about Accuracy ??? Maybe Apprentice Sneak Attack for more damage ??? Bull's Will? ??? --------------------------------------------------------------- Items: Weapon set 1: Firebrand, baby! Weapon Set 2: A WF Soldier item well enchanted. Maybe tidefall or tall grass, we'll see Boots: Shod-in-Faith. These are amazing. Head: Tempered Helm. In testing with Maneha this really worked well ... "per kill" yep, we have a lot of those. Also thinking about Garodh's chorus. Armor: Probably Wayfarer's Hide. Maybe Heldrik's Coat instead for the sturdy bonus? Neck: Currently use the +2 INT necklace, probably better options Belt: The Coil of Rope could be interesting to get sneak attacks or bonus accuracy. Rings: Not sure what to go with at this point. Hands: Forgemaster's gloves!!!
Boeroer Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Barbs with Firebrand (and Scion of Flame) are not underpowered at all. With Bloodthirst and Firebrand I think 9 DEX is fine. High CON on a low deflection barb is always great - that way you don't have to rest all the time because of low health.You might want to wear either Clebrant's Gloves (gives you Overseeing = bigger radius and Holy Meditation, which will boost your Concentration by 30 points). They will help you a lot against interrupts while keeping your deflection down (the way you like it ). The other item you might want to use is the Belt of Chimes. It adds another +25 Concentration. Both items come from minor stronghold quests. Edited April 5, 2016 by Boeroer Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
bigwillystyle Posted April 5, 2016 Author Posted April 5, 2016 Barbs with Firebrand (and Scion of Flame) are not underpowered at all. With Bloodthirst and Firebrand I think 9 DEX is fine. High CON on a low deflection barb is always great - that way you don't have to rest all the time because of low health. You might want to wear either Clebrant's Gloves (gives you Overseeing = bigger radius and Holy Meditation, which will boost your Concentration by 30 points). They will help you a lot against interrupts while keeping your deflection down (the way you like it ). The other item you might want to use is the Belt of Chimes. It adds another +25 Concentration. Both items come from minor stronghold quests. I love the Celebrant's Gloves, but sadly they're not compatible with using the Forgemaster's Gloves. I was not aware of the Belt of Chimes, +25 Concentration is nothing to sneeze at. I wish there was an easy way to get certain Stronghold quests. There are some great items there. 1
Blunderboss Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Barbs with Firebrand (and Scion of Flame) are not underpowered at all. With Bloodthirst and Firebrand I think 9 DEX is fine. High CON on a low deflection barb is always great - that way you don't have to rest all the time because of low health. You might want to wear either Clebrant's Gloves (gives you Overseeing = bigger radius and Holy Meditation, which will boost your Concentration by 30 points). They will help you a lot against interrupts while keeping your deflection down (the way you like it ). The other item you might want to use is the Belt of Chimes. It adds another +25 Concentration. Both items come from minor stronghold quests. I love the Celebrant's Gloves, but sadly they're not compatible with using the Forgemaster's Gloves. I was not aware of the Belt of Chimes, +25 Concentration is nothing to sneeze at. I wish there was an easy way to get certain Stronghold quests. There are some great items there. there might be a way to save scum stronghold adventures , from what i noticed saving before turning in a quest and then reloading if adventure didnt happen does not work , BUT if you get an adventure after turning in quest , reloading and turning it again might wield different adventure this happened to me just today , so basically you could try to save before turning in / advancing quests and after you get adventure you reload if you dont like it until you get the one u wanted Edited April 5, 2016 by Blunderboss
Boeroer Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Barbs with Firebrand (and Scion of Flame) are not underpowered at all. With Bloodthirst and Firebrand I think 9 DEX is fine. High CON on a low deflection barb is always great - that way you don't have to rest all the time because of low health. You might want to wear either Clebrant's Gloves (gives you Overseeing = bigger radius and Holy Meditation, which will boost your Concentration by 30 points). They will help you a lot against interrupts while keeping your deflection down (the way you like it ). The other item you might want to use is the Belt of Chimes. It adds another +25 Concentration. Both items come from minor stronghold quests. I love the Celebrant's Gloves, but sadly they're not compatible with using the Forgemaster's Gloves. I was not aware of the Belt of Chimes, +25 Concentration is nothing to sneeze at. I wish there was an easy way to get certain Stronghold quests. There are some great items there. Man - how drunk was I when I posted this? Of course you can't wear Celebrant's Gloves while you use Forgemaster's Gloves - sorry for that. Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
Blades of Vanatar Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Barbs with Firebrand (and Scion of Flame) are not underpowered at all. With Bloodthirst and Firebrand I think 9 DEX is fine. High CON on a low deflection barb is always great - that way you don't have to rest all the time because of low health. You might want to wear either Clebrant's Gloves (gives you Overseeing = bigger radius and Holy Meditation, which will boost your Concentration by 30 points). They will help you a lot against interrupts while keeping your deflection down (the way you like it ). The other item you might want to use is the Belt of Chimes. It adds another +25 Concentration. Both items come from minor stronghold quests. I love the Celebrant's Gloves, but sadly they're not compatible with using the Forgemaster's Gloves. I was not aware of the Belt of Chimes, +25 Concentration is nothing to sneeze at. I wish there was an easy way to get certain Stronghold quests. There are some great items there. Man - how drunk was I when I posted this?Of course you can't wear Celebrant's Gloves while you use Forgemaster's Gloves - sorry for that. Hey Boeroer, put the beer down. Slowly. Friends don't let friends drink n post build advice. You could destroy entire playthroughs for thousands. I am hearing that's grounds for a felony these days. 2 No matter which fork in the road you take I am certain adventure awaits.
Boeroer Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Teehee.It's funny though because I did not have a single drop the whole week. Maybe that's the problem...? Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
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