Hiravias joins my party at level 8.

 

Upon reaching level 9, his skill screen looks like this:

 

 

Druids start with 2 points in Survival and 1 point in Lore. Drifters get 1 point in Survival and 1 point of Stealth. Level 1 Hiravias should look like this:

 

Stealth: 1

Athletics: 0

Lore: 1

Mechanics: 0

Survival: 3

 

Instead, he has bonuses as though he started like this:

 

Stealth: 1

Athletics: 0

Lore: 3 <----- Borked

Mechanics: 0

Survival: 3

 

You can tell because that screen says he only needs 3 skill points to take Lore from 3 to 6.

 

So, let's take advantage of this bug:

 

 

Hmm. That 3 magically changes to a 6. Issue corrected? Let's reverse that to see what happened:

 

 

Oh my! The Points To Spend bug fixed itself, but now Hiravias has 10 points to spend this level up instead of 8 (this is as it should be, as he should have 4 points left over after level 8, not 2).

 

To be continued...

 

EDIT: Corrected my final parenthetical here after double checking the math.

Edited April 21, 201510 yr by Achilles

It's not just Hiravias though. Pallegina also joins my party at level 8.

 

I have no idea what "Soldier" does, as it's non-standard, but Paladins start with 2 points in Athletics and 1 point in Lore. Running the math backwards, it would appear that Soldier gives 1 Athletics and 2 Lore, meaning that Pallegina looks like this at level 1:

 

Stealth: 0

Athletics: 3

Lore: 3 <----- Borked

Mechanics: 0

Survival: 0

 

That doesn't seem right though (because that means Soldier gets three points whereas other backgrounds only give two) and here's why: same problem with Pallegina's Lore spend as Hiravias.

 

Taking the sequence in order again, level up screen shows too many bonus points in Lore:

 

 

Issue magically resolved:

 

 

Pallegina, now with more points than she started with:

 

 

If we run the math backwards again, we now know that Solder gets 1 point in Athletics and 1 point in Lore. However this means that Pallegina is missing 2 skill points!! She should have had 4 points left over after level 8, not 2.

 

I wish I could say that I'm finished, but I'm saving the best for last. 

 

Grieving Mother, coming up next...

 

Grieving Mother. Level 8. 

 

Looks like this:

 

Stealth: 6

Athletics: 4

Lore: 2

Mechanics: 1

Survival: 4

 

That's a lot of points. 

 

Ciphers start with 1 point in Stealth, Lore, and Mechanics. Again, "Midwife" is a non-standard background, so some investigation is required to figure out what bonuses it grants.

 

First, let's look at her level up screen and see what we can infer:

 

 

We can quickly determine that whatever Midwife is, it comes with a prestigious number of extra skill points.

 

4 in Stealth, 2 in Athletics, 1 in Lore, and 1 in Survival. Wow! 

 

If I do the "spend the points and then take them back" exploit, she jumps from 11 points to spend to 17. The good news is that this tells us what Midwife is and what it is not.

 

 

So, no bonus to Stealth and no bonus to Athletics. Lore and Survival only. Got it.

 

Level 1 Grieving Mother should have looked like this:

 

Stealth: 1

Athletics: 0

Lore: 2

Mechanics: 1

Survival: 1

 

Which means that in order to get to the point distribution she starts with, she had 5 skill points left over after level 7, didn't spend any point upon taking level 8 (transferring 11 points to level 9), and should have 17 points to spend right now (which is what I get after I do the "spend the points and take them back" thing).

 

I hope this helps. Please fix!

 

 

 

It would help if you had a saved game with eighth-level Hiravias to hand the devs so they could repro in-house

I'm sure that I do, but they have npc progression tables. It's not as though there's a software bug at work here.

Still broken in 1.05