This guy represents everything I hate about politicians

[Humodour]

http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/344247/sh...4304&fpid=1

 

Read it. Absorb the slime. Bask in the sleazy evasion. Read in awe as he answers none of the questions asked in the 3 page interview.

 

It's ironic because he's trying to introduce Internet censorship "for the children" yet he looks like a paedophile.

 

If I had kids I certainly wouldn't let him near them.

 

Edited April 30, 2010 by Krezack

[Humodour]

Not to mention his retarded plans to scrap the NBN (National Broadband Network). The NBN is a brilliant idea which voters, industry, academia, and communications companies support (except the copper-line monopoly Telstra, which was itself a previously government entity).

 

NBN = fibre to the home with guaranteed speeds of 100mbps for 90% of Australians and wireless/satellite for the rest (remote areas, min speed 12mbps). Then if we ever needed to upgrade in future (e.g. to gigabit) we'd just replace the switches (not the fibre, which supports up to the speed of light obviously). And it legally has has to be sold to private industry (with no single majority single stakeholders) after 10 years anyway, and is 49% private from the outset, so a maximum public cost of $22 billion over 8 years to taxpayers in the country with the lowest public debt in the Western world... ****.

 

Abbott would like to see Australia remain in the dark ages, and Rudd would like to see Australia become some sort of Internet religious police state. Yaaaaay.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network

[Walsingham]

I don't wish to be rude, given that I have a hangover, but:

 

1. I wasn't aware that paedophiles could be identified from their faces.

 

2. It seems perfectly logical to me that Australia needs a multiple system solution to get everyone online in a country which varies from arable grassland to high density urban, to pure desert.

 

3. I don't think that calls to automatically censor things like child pronography are obviously misguided. The danger to civil liberties must be borne against the danger to children. It's no use simply flapping about it. We accept, for example, that the right to roam be curtailed in areas which are dangerous to the public and can forcible remove people from those areas. For example railway lines.

[Calax]

No no no... the guy you're looking for is Brown from the UK. Who just completely destroyed his career in one fell swoop.

[Humodour]

I don't wish to be rude, given that I have a hangover, but:

 

1. I wasn't aware that paedophiles could be identified from their faces.

 

This one can.

 

2. It seems perfectly logical to me that Australia needs a multiple system solution to get everyone online in a country which varies from arable grassland to high density urban, to pure desert.

 

Agreed, which is what the NBN is - fibre, wireless, satellite, and I suppose copper, with the majority obviously being fibre. It's a good idea. The NBN is a tier 1 provider, so it won't compete with or replace ISPs.

 

3. I don't think that calls to automatically censor things like child pronography are obviously misguided. The danger to civil liberties must be borne against the danger to children. It's no use simply flapping about it. We accept, for example, that the right to roam be curtailed in areas which are dangerous to the public and can forcible remove people from those areas. For example railway lines.

 

Let me put it this way: this internet filter acts on the http protocol only. When was the last time you saw child porn accessed from a website? It's all done via P2P, and often by darknets, which has been repeatedly pointed out to the government.

 

And I really hate the "for the children" defence because it's so hollow. Instead of trying (and failing) to block polite society from being aware of the problem (while ****ing up normal internet access and putting in place a censorship scheme to be abused by future governments) just so politicians can brush the problem under the carpet (while the offenders continue unhindered), we should be investing the large sum required for this madcap scheme into actual action on the issue - improved law enforcement, nailing the problem at its source (which has proven to be very effective in Australia in the past, even without extra funding). Australia does not have a 'paedofile' problem, so why this sudden wildly disproportionate move? And it's interesting that everyone from Google to child protection groups are speaking out against this filter.

 

It's nothing but a social conservative vote grab.

Edited April 30, 2010 by Krezack

[Moose]

No no no... the guy you're looking for is Brown from the UK. Who just completely destroyed his career in one fell swoop.

 

Only if the conservatives don't win. He'll stick around for a hung parliament. What else is he to do?

[Walsingham]

No no no... the guy you're looking for is Brown from the UK. Who just completely destroyed his career in one fell swoop.

 

Only if the conservatives don't win. He'll stick around for a hung parliament. What else is he to do?

 

Grow a spine? Get some sort of gel to rub into his clawlike hands so they release his hold on power? He's gone bloody mental!

 

I see what you mean Krez, and have to agree. Offensive action gets my vote before some sort of electric Maginot line. The only problem with that is that people get even more shirty if you start spying on them.

[Raithe]

Ah but did you catch the news on Mandelson trying to put the spin on Brown's latest gaffe?

 

Some reporter made a semi-snarky comment, so Mandelson turned round and did the whole high and mighty "Some people have the stress and worry of running for office at the moment."

 

A reporter promptly replied "Unlike you."

 

 

That man is like a vampire.. someone seriously needs to stake him out. How many times can he come back from total disgrace and resume a position of power in the government....

[Walsingham]

Spider Jeruslaem's take on voting (mature language)

[Darth InSidious]

The real worry isn't that Brown wins, it's what happens if he loses.

 

Every time Peter Mandelson has been kicked out of government, he's come back with more power. If the Labour Party lose the election, we might well end up with Dictator For Life Mandelson...