Walsingham Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8476381.stm Some complete arsehole has been selling 'bomb detectors' to Iraq to the tune of tens of millions. I say arsehole because apparently they are pretty much just a wobbly metal stick attached to a black plastic handle. It has been described as a 'dowsing rod'. I raise the story for your attention mainly because I am deeply ashamed that my country has only just taken action, at the same time as I'm a little bit proud that the BBC have finally exposed it and action is being taken. I simply cannot understand how our government's attention can have so far drifted as to be oblivious to the fact that an ally in desperate straights is being honcoed by a British conman! Heads must roll. It also subsequently occurs to me that there is a wider question which was inspired by my steadfast horror. To whit: is it worse to sell a bomb detector that is pure hocum than it is to sell a cancer detector which works on similar lines? A practice common throughout the world as I can attest to from personal experience. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Darth InSidious Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 (edited) I'm not sure how you assess which is 'worse'. Both are ****ty ways to behave. Also, in before Rand or the Amerkin constitution gets quoted. Edited January 23, 2010 by Darth InSidious This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter.
Kaftan Barlast Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 (edited) That is just dirty rotten. But, one cant helpt but wonder how and why so many countries bought and paid for these very expensive devices without testing them first? What you normally do is to request samples from a whole bunch of companies, test which one does the best job at the lowest price and go with that. The bomb detector is worse, IMO. Because there is no second opinion there, they let a car with a bomb onboard through the checkpoints; people are dead within the hour. When they could have used bombsniffer dogs or their electronic counterparts. edit. and Ayn Rand would have said that the people who died deserved it because they were stupid enough to get fooled, and that Jim McCormick is a brilliant entrepreneur who just exercised his right to profit from his genial ability to con people. Edited January 24, 2010 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Walsingham Posted January 24, 2010 Author Posted January 24, 2010 We were discussing this last night and teh only thing I could think in his defence is that random testing is better than testing on grounds of 'looking like a Sunni' or whatever some newly hired security officer might choose to do. We also decided that this had to a deliberate attempt to swindle due to the shopping theft tag put inside in place of any sort of microchip. If he simply thought dowsing rods were acceptable he wouldn't ahve put in the 'chip'. We decided in our drunken court that such behaviour should be prosecuted as fraud THEN prosecuted as treason THEN he should be extradited to Iraq. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Purkake Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Oh yeah, I heard about that, ridiculous. James Randi posted a about it as well.
Killian Kalthorne Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 Never underestimate the volume of stupidity and the capacity to take advantage of such stupidity of man. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
Walsingham Posted January 24, 2010 Author Posted January 24, 2010 *shakes head* Now the Iraqis are claiming its a conspiracy and that the detectors do work. They are saying it's all because the inventor won't tell the UK and US how they work! The capacity of mid-easterners to entertain conspiracies never ceases to amaze me. It must be something to do with the controlled media etc etc. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted January 24, 2010 Posted January 24, 2010 The device consists of a swivelling aerial mounted to a hinge on a hand-grip. It does not operate by battery, instead promotional material says it is powered only by the user's static electricity. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
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