Walsingham Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 faith and belief than credible evidence and fact Of course it sounds bad if you put it like that. Yeah because there are so many established facts in science. And I'm saying that as a scientist. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 faith and belief than credible evidence and fact Of course it sounds bad if you put it like that. Yeah because there are so many established facts in science. And I'm saying that as a scientist. Who said anything about science? The one thing I know for certain about science is that there is a lot of uncertainty. There is a lot of credible evidence that support theories, but a discovery a day later could blow that evidence out of the water. In some cases that is even intentional. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 faith and belief than credible evidence and fact Of course it sounds bad if you put it like that. Yeah because there are so many established facts in science. And I'm saying that as a scientist. There are, yes. Especially if you define facts axiomatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 9, 2008 Author Share Posted December 9, 2008 faith and belief than credible evidence and fact Of course it sounds bad if you put it like that. Yeah because there are so many established facts in science. And I'm saying that as a scientist. There are, yes. Especially if you define facts axiomatically. Well, if you define the bastards axiomatically, that's essentially cheating. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Well, if you define the bastards axiomatically, that's essentially cheating. Cheating is good for the soul. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julianw Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Islam is a beautiful religion but many of its ideologies are outdated; and the Islamic priesthood is probably more corrupt than the Catholic Church. This is just one instance, but some of the Mosques in Iran actually raise money with prostitution practices which leaves their mullahs with very little credibility in my eyes.I doubt there is more corruption or outdated-ness than in christian circles - simply because the religion is newer, and corruption is a normal state of being for any human. Also, do you have a link or something more substantial on the claim in the last sentence? It's pretty well documented in Iran much like the child-molesting priests case here in US. Both cases are shocking but neither had any revolutionary influence over the Churches or the faithful; and after a while, people get numb to those stories and they are no longer front page material. Brdavs - your point about Iraq is interesting. Whatever problems Iraq had before the US takeover, it certainly wasn't caused by radical Islam. I wonder where all these radical Islam stuff come from after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Yeah, Islamic charities in Iran are bent as all hell. I read a decent article on it a while ago, but I can't find it, so the wikipedia run-down will have to do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonyad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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