Hi,

 

Given the recent hot debate on DRM, I want to be more aware of what I buy. If possible, it'd be cool to have some sort of list saying what upcoming PC games will have DRM, and also what sort.

 

Eg. Spore = SecuRom, only applicable to as-of-yet-unreleased games.

 

Thanks! There's just so many good PC games coming up that I don't have the time to keep track of which one has which DRM.

 

(Keep console trash out of this thread, thanks)

Actually, that's not fair, consoles have DRM too.

 

Relevent DRM.

SUCKY!

Hi,

 

Given the recent hot debate on DRM, I want to be more aware of what I buy. If possible, it'd be cool to have some sort of list saying what upcoming PC games will have DRM, and also what sort.

 

Eg. Spore = SecuRom, only applicable to as-of-yet-unreleased games.

 

Thanks! There's just so many good PC games coming up that I don't have the time to keep track of which one has which DRM.

 

Well, it would be easier if you listed the games you are interested in and we could tell you whether they come with DDRM or not or if it is still unknown. If the game is relatively far from release (more than a few months) than it is almost certainly unknown, but there are clear trends by company. For example, EA is prone to using DDRM on its new PC releases, but we still don't know what DRM system will be used for most of the upcoming games - e.g. Dragon Age. It seems pretty likely that EA will use DDRM on all of its future PC titles, though I suppose they could change their minds - future is difficult to predict.

Well, Fallout 3 will have FDRM, while Bioshock, MEPC, Spore, and most probably Dragon Age will have DDRM.

For those who are not familiar with our new terminology - it comes from this thread: http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?showt...50761&st=30

 

Basically, I felt there is a need to distinguish between the types of DRM like CD checks and those that limit installs, require online activations and impose similar highly restrictive conditions on the user. Technically, they are all DRM, but the impact on the end user is very different, so I think it would be better to have short quick terms to distinguish between them in discussion, rather than to have to explain what kind of DRM we have in mind in detail each time we post to avoid confusion. Hence:

 

FDRM = Friendly DRM

DDRM = Draconian DRM

 

Of course, what kind of DRM falls into which category is somewhat subjective, but I would say that FDRM should fulfill several conditions:

 

1) Not negatively impact game longevity

2) Not make the user dependent on online or other services of the company for playing the game unless it is inherent to the kind of gameplay the game offers (this ties in with point 1 too)

3) Not excessively inconvenience the legitimate user

 

And there ends my rambling for now!

Well, Fallout 3 will have FDRM, while Bioshock, MEPC, Spore, and most probably Dragon Age will have DDRM.

 

To add to the list, I am happy to say that it appears as if the Storm of Zehir will not have DDRM and will rather stick with a simple CD-check just like NWN2 and MotB: http://nwn2forums.bioware.com/forums/viewt...7&forum=128

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