van buren

[Darque]

How did having a "vault zero" clash with the previous canon?

[Drakron]

The Vault project was simply several tests for the enclave, the vaults were not intended to work as advertised.

 

Take Vault 13 that was simply to contain test subjects for the enclave bioweapon (that was to kill all mutants and that also meant humans that were radiated) and the water chip was in fact a accident, other vaults however had created accidents that served as tests (some had a all male population, others open too soon, etc ...).

 

So Vault 0 could only served a enclave control center for the vaults (however it does not make sense since the enclave simply taken over it when they come out of the oil rig vault) but the war was started by the enclave and vault 0 was unfinished, as a enclave diversion Vault 0 could work except it was simply too funtional to my taste, I suspect the developers of tactics simply ignored the Enclave role in the Vault project as stated in FO2.

 

However, the biggest issue people taken was the Brotherhood of Steel but Tactic did stated that the Brotherhood changed since they cut from their bases and so there was a diference of then and the original Brotherhood.

[Darque]

Unless there are pieces missing.

 

Maybe V0 was created but abandoned by the Enclave?

 

Maybe V0 was a part of their plan all along, to monitor the experiement?

 

 

Loose ends allow for different interpretations

 

However, the biggest issue people taken was the Brotherhood of Steel but Tactic did stated that the Brotherhood changed since they cut from their bases and so there was a diference of then and the original Brotherhood.

 

Exactly, this BoS was a group of original BoS disidents, and were ejected. They were Brotherhood pretty much only in name.

[Drakron]

What?

 

No... no... no ...

 

In Tactics the BoS sends a team across the mountains using blimps to search for technology and after a storm they crash and are forced to be "hire-cops" to survive.

 

The original Brotherhood are all decendents of a weapon research facility team, there are no disidents as in Fallout they take the very first member outside (most because they never belived s/he would survive) and in tactics they start to take outside people out of need.

 

Also Vault 0 feels to be a separate storyline from FO2, as Tactics says Vault 0 was completed and so never used by the enclave.

[Darque]

no...no..no...

 

Sorry but no

 

There was a schism, and they were cast out.

 

go watch the opening movie again

[Darque]

The original Brotherhood are all decendents of a weapon research facility team

 

Bzzzt. Wrong again

 

The original Brotherhood are decendents of the experimentees, who were all military

 

They were all test subjects for that virus that created the master and the Supermutants

 

Go read the in game datapads

[Antagonist]

The BoS were formed from the renmants of the military forces after they rebeled against their superiors because of the inhuman experiments performed at the military base. Luckily for them the world got hit pretty bad by nukes and so they experienced no retribution by the government.. They were led by some General (?) Maxon to another buncer (their later main operation base), whose descendant is the High Elder during the Fallout 1 period.

[Iolo]

Are you sure it's not VB?

Fairly certain. It would just make too much sense financially for it to be Van Buren. Hence it's not. Remember who we are talking about here.

[Darque]

The BoS were formed from the renmants of the military forces after they rebeled against their superiors because of the inhuman experiments performed at the military base. Luckily for them the world got hit pretty bad by nukes and so they experienced no retribution by the government.. They were led by some General (?) Maxon to another buncer (their later main operation base), whose descendant is the High Elder during the Fallout 1 period.

^^ what he said. That's what I was trying to say... but obviously didn't do very well

[Darque]

Are you sure it's not VB?

Fairly certain. It would just make too much sense financially for it to be Van Buren. Hence it's not. Remember who we are talking about here.

Who are we talking about?

 

A company who had an eviction notice handed to it this week and so can't hide the fact they're in deep $#!% anymore

 

If VB is a money maker, that's their only hope.

[ShadowPaladin V1.0]

A company who had an eviction notice handed to it this week and so can't hide the fact they're in deep $#!% anymore

 

If VB is a money maker, that's their only hope.

It should be Exhalted next.

 

Thats not a debt. Thats pocket change

[Spook]

Hope they have large pockets then.

 

www.gamespy.com/articles/506/506558p1.html

[Judge Hades]

Who cares? Van Buren is dead.

[Darque]

We're all doomed... oh what is the point....

 

:D

[Judge Hades]

Its true so why worry about it? I think it is best to concentrate on games that are in the living.

[Darque]

[Spook]

Its true so why worry about it? I think it is best to concentrate on games that are in the living.

Who is worried? Maybe IP.

[mkreku]

I noticed they mentioned Van Buren in this article so I figured I should post it here. Perhaps someone finds something of interest in it. I thought it was a good read.

[Darque]

Interesting

[bishiraver]

Very interesting, though it makes me miss it even more. Sigh