Shadowrun 4th Edition

[Rhomal]

Has anyone played SR 4E here? Was wondering what you thought of the changes vs/ the previous core rules?

 

Were the changes worthwhile?

 

I only play sporadicly with 2E and 3E myself was wondering if 4E was worth getting.

[Joseph Bulock]

I've been playing in a game as of late, my first with the new edition. I definitely like a lot of the changes. A bit less wacky when it comes to min-maxing, but still can have problems when you have characters running in three separate planes, especially if your GM is a bit new. It is fully of improvements across the board though, and is a great edition to start people with, whereas third edition had enough of a learning curve that noobs always seemed to find a way to cripple their characters pretty fast. Also, while I haven't managed to track them down yet, the supplements that are getting released look really interesting, and make it seem like 4th edition will get better support.

[Sand]

I have always liked Shadowrun. Obsidian should make a real CRPG out of the game... With a Tools Set...

 

[Darque]

It'd be hard to top the old SEGA Shadowrun game.

[Sand]

If anyone could do it, it would be Obsidian!

[Darque]

And with a toolset.

 

As a side note: I didn't even realize it was up to 4th

 

The last stuff I got was 1st edition...

[Joseph Bulock]

And with a toolset.

 

As a side note: I didn't even realize it was up to 4th >_

 

The last stuff I got was 1st edition...

 

You should definitely check it out again. They've really fleshed out the world a lot more and cleaned up the mechanics. Still a little slow in some combats, but better.

[Rhomal]

I've been playing in a game as of late, my first with the new edition. I definitely like a lot of the changes. A bit less wacky when it comes to min-maxing, but still can have problems when you have characters running in three separate planes, especially if your GM is a bit new. It is fully of improvements across the board though, and is a great edition to start people with, whereas third edition had enough of a learning curve that noobs always seemed to find a way to cripple their characters pretty fast. Also, while I haven't managed to track them down yet, the supplements that are getting released look really interesting, and make it seem like 4th edition will get better support.

 

'cripple' their PC? How so?

 

*confused*

[Joseph Bulock]

In third edition, many of the players in game would go for a jack of all trades approach, and in doing so, have horrible dice pools for almost any action. Or specialists would over specialize in a single task instead of a role. These are not new PnP problems, I just thought that the way characters are built, along with the relatively slow speed of character progression in SR allowed for a very long learning process if the mistakes were made. 4th edition has made it a bit more difficult to make your character useless at nearly everything.