zer"0" Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Black Hats: 1 DRM & Co.: 0 Place your bets, ladies and gents! Round 1 goes to the hackers. Round 2... Ding! Ding! LOL! Just something I had to share. Details below. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070125/tc_nm/hackers_dvd_dc AACS confirms hacks on high-definition DVD playersA consortium of movie studios and technology companies backing the encryption system for high-definition DVDs on Thursday confirmed that hackers have stolen "title keys" and used them to decrypt high-definition DVDs through flaws in DVD player software. Both the title keys and a number of decrypted films have been posted on peer-to-peer Web sites for downloading and copying, a spokesman for the Advanced Access Content System (AACS) Licensing Authority said. The large size of the files and the high cost of writable hi-def discs make large-scale copying of high-definition DVDs impractical, but the attacks on the new format echo the early days of illegal trafficking in music files, AACS spokesman Michael Ayers said on Thursday. The hackers did not attack the AACS system itself, but stole the keys as they were exchanged between the DVD and the player to strip the encryption from the film. The confirmation of the attack comes about a month after a hacker called Muslix64 described in an online posting how he defeated the encryption system by using DVD player software. :cool:
Surreptishus Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I heard Blu-ray was also cracked this week.
Pidesco Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Bot? "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
Deraldin Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) weird bot <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bot? He's got 270 posts and has been registered here longer than you have. What makes you think he's a bot? On the article, I could have sworn this was reported a few weeks ago. EDIT: Now that I've read the article it does make mention that someone claimed they had cracked it about a month ago. @ Surreptishus The security breach affects both of the high-definition DVD formats -- Sony Corp's Blu-Ray and Toshiba's HD DVD, Ayers said. Apparently you're right. Edited January 26, 2007 by Deraldin
Surreptishus Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 As the article mentions, the files are indeed massive - like 25 Gb. So at the moment I guess it is not much more than a big "F you" to Sony et al.
theslug Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Can someone plz elaborate what hacking title keys actually is? I don't even understand what they are saying. There was a time when I questioned the ability for the schizoid to ever experience genuine happiness, at the very least for a prolonged segment of time. I am no closer to finding the answer, however, it has become apparent that contentment is certainly a realizable goal. I find these results to be adequate, if not pleasing. Unfortunately, connection is another subject entirely. When one has sufficiently examined the mind and their emotional constructs, connection can be easily imitated. More data must be gleaned and further collated before a sufficient judgment can be reached.
Diamond Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 In AACS 2 keys are used: title key and HD-DVD player model key. Encrypted disc contains data encrypted with this disc's title key, and also contains title key itself encrypted with all model keys, so only licensed HD-DVD players can play the disc. To play a disc, a player uses its key to decrypt a title key, and a title key to decrypt content. The hackers pulled a key from HD-DVD software in order to obtain title keys from discs and decrypt the content. So AACS is not really hacked, but circumvented.
theslug Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Oh so they are playing hd dvds on regular dvd players? There was a time when I questioned the ability for the schizoid to ever experience genuine happiness, at the very least for a prolonged segment of time. I am no closer to finding the answer, however, it has become apparent that contentment is certainly a realizable goal. I find these results to be adequate, if not pleasing. Unfortunately, connection is another subject entirely. When one has sufficiently examined the mind and their emotional constructs, connection can be easily imitated. More data must be gleaned and further collated before a sufficient judgment can be reached.
theslug Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I think i get it now. There was a time when I questioned the ability for the schizoid to ever experience genuine happiness, at the very least for a prolonged segment of time. I am no closer to finding the answer, however, it has become apparent that contentment is certainly a realizable goal. I find these results to be adequate, if not pleasing. Unfortunately, connection is another subject entirely. When one has sufficiently examined the mind and their emotional constructs, connection can be easily imitated. More data must be gleaned and further collated before a sufficient judgment can be reached.
metadigital Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Can someone plz elaborate what hacking title keys actually is? I don't even understand what they are saying. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Each title (read: HD movie) has its own key, which the player decrypts using its own product key. This allows Hollywood to invalidate a HD-DVD player that has been hacked. What the crackers have done is find a universal hack for titles, circumventing the players' decryption technology. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Surreptishus Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 I thought the hacker didn't find a universal hack but was able to hack one of a few titles. His complaint was that he wasn't able to watch an HD movie at full quality because he didn't have a monitor connection that was HDCP compliant.
metadigital Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Maybe ... I didn't read the links ... :ph34r: ... I was just explaining the Title hack process; evidently it wasn't a skeleton key! :D OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Diamond Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Maybe ... I didn't read the links ... :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> *cough* And other posts in this thread too ... "
zer"0" Posted January 27, 2007 Author Posted January 27, 2007 This seems like a better place for this. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks, Darque
Kaftan Barlast Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 So thats why I saw a HD-DVD film on a torrent site the other day. Its beyond naive of the large corporations to believe that they can produce a technology that cannot be hacked. Also, most DRM's just end up causing more trouble for the legitimate user than the pirate DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Diamond Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 I don't think they are that clueless. They know it can't be stopped, but they try to delay it, or at least make pirate distribution more difficult. As for DRM, HD-DVD copy protection is not nearly as invasive as DRM for downloads. DVD has content encryption system too, did it cause much trouble to legit consumers? (note: I'm not talking region coding here, which is pure evil)
Deraldin Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 The only thing that ever ticked me off about DVDs is how sometimes they would lock out my remote and force me to watch the stupid FBI warnings. As if we haven't seen them a million times already. <_<
metadigital Posted January 27, 2007 Posted January 27, 2007 Maybe ... I didn't read the links ... :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> *cough* And other posts in this thread too ... " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey, you try being a mod and reading all this garbage and see how much you take notice of ... " OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
metadigital Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 It's official. News[security] Friday 26th January 2007 Licence body confirms hi-def encryption has been cracked 10:49AM A consortium of movie studios and technology companies backing the encryption system for high-definition DVDs on Thursday confirmed that hackers have stolen 'title keys' and used them to decrypt high-definition DVDs through flaws in DVD player software. Both the title keys and a number of decrypted films have been posted on peer-to-peer websites for downloading and copying, a spokesman for the Advanced Access Content System (AACS) Licensing Authority said. The large size of the files and the high cost of writable hi-def discs make large-scale copying of high-definition DVDs impractical, but the attacks on the new format echo the early days of illegal trafficking in music files, AACS spokesman Michael Ayers said on Thursday. 'We want to make sure we address this now. It has a potentially limited impact now but some sobering possibilities,' Ayers said. The hackers did not attack the AACS system itself, but stole the keys as they were exchanged between the DVD and the player to strip the encryption from the film. A large-scale failure of AACS could be a threat to the $24 billion DVD industry, which has started to cool and is counting on next-generation DVD sales to reinvigorate it. The hackers obtained the keys from 'one or more' player applications but AACS would not identify them or say whether their AACS licensing would be revoked. 'We certainly have not ruled out any particular response and we will take whatever action is appropriate,' Ayers said. The security breach affects both of the high-definition DVD formats - Sony's Blu-Ray and Toshiba's HD DVD, Ayers said. The confirmation of the attack comes about a month after a hacker called Muslix64 described in an online posting how he defeated the encryption system by using DVD player software. AACS LA founders include IBM, Intel, Microsoft, Panasonic, Sony, Toshiba, Walt Disney and Warner Bros Studios, a unit of Time Warner. clickie OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Deraldin Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 It's official. [sNIP]Article[/sNIP] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's almost exactly the same article that was quoted in the first post. In fact the first 5 sentences are word for word.
Surreptishus Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 It's official. [sNIP]Article[/sNIP] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's almost exactly the same article that was quoted in the first post. In fact the first 5 sentences are word for word. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I noticed too... I think Meta is losing it.
Deraldin Posted January 30, 2007 Posted January 30, 2007 It's official. [sNIP]Article[/sNIP] <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's almost exactly the same article that was quoted in the first post. In fact the first 5 sentences are word for word. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I noticed too... I think Meta is losing it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let's just hope he doesn't remember he has mod powers after he totally loses it. He also posted about the Hitachi 1TB hard drives more than a week after I posted about them. "
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