Religion in the Workplace.

[Pidesco]

Allah is the actual translation for the word God.

[Sand]

Allah, Yehweh, Iehova, God... Its all the same guy.

[kumquatq3]

Allah, Yehweh, Iehova, God...  Its all the same guy.

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Yahweh & Iehovah (if your going the Indy route) & The Great Spagehtti monster

[Xard]

Umm... no

 

It's like saying NWN 1 and NWN 2 are same thing since they both are CRPG's and start with NWN

[kumquatq3]

Umm... no

 

It's like saying NWN 1 and NWN 2 are same thing since they both are CRPG's and start with NWN

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Um...yeah

 

It's like saying cheese cake isn't cheese cake because one is strawberry and one is vanilla. It's all cheese cake, in this case.

 

Again, Muslims even think Jesus was a prophet.

[Sand]

Umm... no

 

It's like saying NWN 1 and NWN 2 are same thing since they both are CRPG's and start with NWN

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Actually yes. If you go through the historical texts and how cultures merged and divided over the thousands of years in that region it is the same God. The God of Judaism, is the same God of Christianity, which is the same God of Islam.

[Xard]

They're all Gods, but you don't have to believe in them to see differences between them. Their personalities surely aren't same. If they even have personality like is not case in Hinduism since all of its Gods are different maniphests of same abstract Godhood.

 

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    "...God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him." 112:1-4

 

In Arabic, God is called Allāh. The word is etymologically connected to ʾilāh "deity", Allāh is also the word used by Christian and Jewish Arabs, translating ho theos of the New Testament and Septuagint; it predates Muhammad and, at least in origin, does not specify a "God" different from the one worshipped by Judaism and Christianity, the other Abrahamic religions. One of the most common beliefs about "Allah," however, is that Christians and Jews both worship a different God than Muslims. This is not technically true as "Allah" literally means "God" and all three religions are monotheistic. All three religions, however, hold different conceptions about God. The name "Allah" is a singular neuter noun.

 

Christian God is forgiver and loving, Muslim God wants everyone to submit under his will, Judaism God just wants to keep his people straight

 

Those are conception differences, but quite different (minus the part everyone says that if you don't believe in me you are going to burn in Hell )

 

Of course from Christian point of view Judaism God and Christian God are same, but this isn't the case with Allah, as Islam is newer religion.

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[Pidesco]

Well, that depends on who you ask. Christians will certainly say their God is the same as the Jewish God. However, if you ask a Jew he'll say the only true God is the Jewish God.

[kumquatq3]

Well, that depends on who you ask. Christians will certainly say their God is the same as the Jewish God. However, if you ask a Jew he'll say the only true God is the Jewish God.

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No, they believe their text is the true words of god and all that. I think they recognize Christians believe in the same god, they just think their going about it wrong.

[Sand]

The problem is that people seem to think that God cannot change its mind or think that the scripture is the end all telling of God's persona. There is more to God than what is written and more than what us mere mortals can ever understand.

[kumquatq3]

They're all Gods, but you don't have to believe in them to see differences between them. Their personalities surely aren't same. If they even have personality like is not case in Hinduism since all of its Gods are different maniphests of same abstract Godhood.

 

 

The argument is NOT about which God is right. The argument is about which texts are correct. The texts are why we know of God's "personality"

[kumquatq3]

The problem is that people seem to think that God cannot change its mind or think that the scripture is the end all telling of God's persona.  There is more to God than what is written and more than what us mere mortals can ever understand.

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or believe "

 

@ Xard: I don't, stuffs still interesting though

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[Sand]

I do not believe nor worship God, but that does not mean I doubt his existence.

[kumquatq3]

I do not believe....but that does not mean I doubt his existence.

 

[Xard]

They're all Gods, but you don't have to believe in them to see differences between them. Their personalities surely aren't same. If they even have personality like is not case in Hinduism since all of its Gods are different maniphests of same abstract Godhood.

 

 

The argument is NOT about which God is right. The argument is about which texts are correct. The texts are why we know of God's "personality"

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As long as all religions imply that their texts are right ones and directly what God has said and other are false, it is same thing.

[kumquatq3]

As long as all religions imply that their texts are right ones and directly what God has said and other are false, it is same thing.

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Nah, If 3 people buy the same exact car and they all come with different maintenance instructions, are the cars now different?

 

I see what your take on it is, I just disagree

[Xard]

The problem is that people seem to think that God cannot change its mind or think that the scripture is the end all telling of God's persona.  There is more to God than what is written and more than what us mere mortals can ever understand.

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@ Xard: I don't, stuffs still interesting though

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That was directed to Ha- I mean Sand, you were just quicker writer than me

 

But yeah...

[Sand]

I do not believe....but that does not mean I doubt his existence.

 

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I don't go by belief. Only by what I know.

[kumquatq3]

I do not believe....but that does not mean I doubt his existence.

 

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I don't go by belief. Only by what I know.

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[Xard]

But how do you KNOW that God exists. You can't prove it so you believe he/she/it exists. Isn't that believing.

 

 

As long as all religions imply that their texts are right ones and directly what God has said and other are false, it is same thing.

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Nah, If 3 people buy the same exact car and they all come with different maintenance instructions, are the cars now different?

 

I see what your take on it is, I just disagree

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Argumenting is fun

 

I see what your take on it is, I just disagree

 

edit: from philosophical point of view God has to exist, he is the first mover.

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[kumquatq3]

Argumenting is fun

 

I see what your take on it is, I just disagree 

 

You have lost however. As you plagiarized my post. I will be reporting you to the Dean immediately.

 

 

edit: from philosophical point of view God has to exist, he is the first mover.

 

This is where we get: "Who created god?"

 

Then: "No one, he created himself from nothing" or "he always was"

 

"Can't something else, ie Bing Bang, do that then"

 

"no"

 

"um....ok....."

 

and you lose me

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[Sand]

Xard, if he wants to show himself to give proof to you he will. If not then he won't.

[kumquatq3]

Xard, if he wants to show himself to give proof to you he will.  If not then he won't.

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Ok, so you do believe?

 

And you live in Iowa?

 

The faith is strong in this one.

[Sand]

I do not believe nor have faith. I only go by what I know.

[kumquatq3]

I do not believe nor have faith.  I only go by what I know.

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Constant refutation with myself

I'm a vicitm of a catch 22

I have no belief

But I believe

I'm a walking contradiction

And I ain't got no right