Calax Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Goodie, maybe another war. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> given what you are I'd think you'd be sick of getting shot at. Can't say I blame Israel at this point. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Syria is not responsable for the kidnapping of the Israely soldier.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> according to Isreal, that's not the case Syria supported to Hamas group that did it, gives them safe haven, etc etc <{POST_SNAPBACK}> and yet we pulled that off quite succesfully against afganistan. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 (edited) Israel. Israeli. Edited June 29, 2006 by Archmonarch And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 And, if such a gang up were to occur, I'd have a funny feeling that nowadays, the US wouldn't sit by and watch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's certainly true, and with the US' support, even if all Arab and Muslim countries sided together against Israel, they would still have little chance of 'winning', if winning means conquering the territory of Israel. That said, they could end up making large parts of the region virtually uninhabitable. In war, everyone loses. There's no appetite from governments in the region for a general gang-up on Israel, by the way. The Saudi Government, for example, is trying (somewhat successfully) to reduce the influence of al-Qaeda and the extremists on public opinion by focusing people's attention onto domestic issues of public services and governance. They are sympathetic towards the Palestinians and Hamas, but won't inconvenience themselves over it. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 In war, everyone loses. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not so, mate. Yes both sides take a beating. But if you think both lose then I'm guessing you've not seen what happens to the 'official' loser. Losing happens, and it's very very much worse than winning. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 And, if such a gang up were to occur, I'd have a funny feeling that nowadays, the US wouldn't sit by and watch. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's certainly true, and with the US' support, even if all Arab and Muslim countries sided together against Israel, they would still have little chance of 'winning', if winning means conquering the territory of Israel. The US wouldn't get directly involved, certainly not with ground forces, because Israel can definitely hold it's own. (more) Financial backing is a real possibility tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 (more) Financial backing is a real possibility tho. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah like you aren't giving them already $2 billion dollars worth of defence equipment every single year...but then again you have all the money in the world to spare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenghuang Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 And weapons. We have lots of weapons we could send them. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 (more) Financial backing is a real possibility tho. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah like you aren't giving them already $2 billion dollars worth of defence equipment every single year...but then again you have all the money in the world to spare... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hence "(more)" and I don't have all the money in the world to spare. O wait, you mean the US goverment headed by the guy I didn't vote for, ruled by the party I didn't vote for? welcome back Hilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hence "(more)" and I don't have all the money in the world to spare. O wait, you mean the US goverment headed by the guy I didn't vote for, ruled by the party I didn't vote for? welcome back Hilde <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That doesn't matter Kumaq...in the eyes of foreigners you are all Bush lovers...therefor hated as well.... PS - I'm only back for a few days...thank you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 whats the whole deal with the coming and going again? iirc, something military related, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 whats the whole deal with the coming and going again? iirc, something military related, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well aren't you a smart fellow...currently I'm doing something I always wanted, something I like...and you know quite well what my interests are when you take into consideration what the majority of my posts here are about...that's all I'll say...that's all I can say... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 He's in the Iraqi National Guard ) DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 whats the whole deal with the coming and going again? iirc, something military related, right? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well aren't you a smart fellow...currently I'm doing something I always wanted, something I like...and you know quite well what my interests are when you take into consideration what the majority of my posts here are about...that's all I'll say...that's all I can say... Cheers <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ....well, then I'll guess: 1. Killing American pig dogs 2. Printing Anti-US t-shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 ....well, then I'll guess: 1. Killing American pig dogs 2. Printing Anti-US t-shirts <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No and no...you've pretty much guessed the first time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 ....well, then I'll guess: 1. Killing American pig dogs 2. Printing Anti-US t-shirts <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No and no...you've pretty much guessed the first time... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Training in the military.....to kill american pig dogs in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 He's in the Iraqi National Guard ) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah working undercover....al-Jaafari's head is mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Training in the military.....to kill american pig dogs in the future? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Ah an assassin... watch out for Antonio Banderas. :ph34r: DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Ah an assassin... watch out for Antonio Banderas. :ph34r: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He died trying to eat my vanilla ice-cream....nobody does that...nobody :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I once made a wannabe gangsta arab guy cry back in school for making me spill my milkshake... does that count? DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 I once made a wannabe gangsta arab guy cry back in school for making me spill my milkshake... does that count? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmm...OK...I guess it does...but only because you have a cool tank for your avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 This little thing? Baneblade, Imperial Super Heavy Tank. Oh and FYI, those tracks just gave me a mild erection. DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 What game is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucius Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 It's from the tabletop Warhammer 40.000 universe. The tank is also in the PC RTS game WH40k Dawn of War. Super Heavy Tanks DENMARK! It appears that I have not yet found a sig to replace the one about me not being banned... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildegard Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hey Lucius....do you know about the Russian Black Eagle MBT? Looks impressive huh? Without the netting the armour looks a lot more interesting. Looks like they overlap. Its not Kontakt 5 its a new one called Kaktus. Its not brick like normal ERA but its like a thin scale. Whats inside? I dont know but we can b sure its a improvement over Kontakt 5. Its smaller thinner and most probaly more capable. Overlapping scales would be more effictive Heres a estimate of its armour Gun?. Still has a 125mm. Maybe going to be improved later. If its going to have a a new 125mm indifinatly than new gun fired missiles will be included. New missiles in development i suppose. But is this new russian tank going to be revolutionary or is it just going to be a evolution. When pictures of it first surfaced there was much speculation about its abilities. Manless turrnet supergun etc. In reality its just a improvement of a older tank just like the T-90 was a improvment of the T-72 while this is a improvment of the T-80U. New production line new equipment new everything. Yes the russian economy is recovering but its not stable as yet to fund large moderization of the russian tank fleet. Priorities i would rank the russian missile capabilitiy first since by the end of this century russias ICBM are going to be to old or broken from lack of maintance. Since the fall of the soviets the only reason why people take them seriously is because of the "large" number of missiles during the cold war. If thats gone what else do they have?. Then it would be the airforce since all the Su-27s Mig-29s are still relativly new airframes at a little over two decades for some planes, their airframes would have been punished hard in the bad years of indepe ndence. Their bomber fleet trainer fleet their training hours need to be looked after before their ground forces can be moderized. Navy?. Well, a nuclear submarine is expensive to buy but russia has a lot of submarines to replace. Even the Akula submarines that entered service in the 80s were retired. Russian needs new SLBM carriers. Russian carrier still in the works?. Then the ground forces which tanks can still works can still be upgraded without buying new tanks. You cannot upgrade a old aircraft so upgrading old tanks with new developed technology and russias already large fleet of T-72s can be fitted with ERA and ARENA self defence system Is it going to be brought. I highly doubt it since it does not offer any more improved capabilities than say buying more T-90s which can be also fitted with new FCS or Kaktus. So cost vs effictivness the T-90 while being a less capable tank is better value. I probaly suspect the russian making a no man turrnet design than go with a normal design. I think it was more of a export gimmick than as a genuine tank which the russians will buy. Im just thinking will new tactics be a smaller role for the gun and instead more of a missile carrier?. Just wondering since missiles have better range better accuracy and better peneration than a sabot round will the gun be replaced by a missile mount?. Any thoughts about this But no doubt this is one of the better tanks that were design. What i love about russans tanks is their ability to be upgraded with add ons which come alone. But lets no forget that these upgrades are post-gulf war gulf war two post chechnya so lessons from IEDs or RPGs will have been learnt and i suspect by the size of the new Kaktus ERA it was not meant to stop sabots but HEAT rounds. Well thats me speculating on this. Possible export markets. India- Arjun II - And new rhino upgrades. It doesn't look like a heavy possbilites South korea - They have their mini-M1 which has just got a new upgrade so this is leaning to no China - Hell no. Third world - Umm if i was a small poor country where i was offered a upgraded T-55 which is 2million and a Black eagle which was 5million. Which would be my choice? America- Yeah they'll buy a few, just to get whats new in russia defence industry Sorry if I exaggerated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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