Darque Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Geneva Convention? Never heard of it. The goal of war is to win. By any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Oh? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Yup. The best way to win a war is to do so without ever firing a shot. The bloodless win is best. But if you do have to fight, it must be decisive and complete, and your commitment total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Full force by any means necessary including all and any type of weapons in one's arsenal? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 If we're prepared to use any means, then we've already lost. The Geneva Convention exists to protect those who would perpetrate torture as much as those who might be subjected to it. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 If we're prepared to use any means, then we've already lost. The Geneva Convention exists to protect those who would perpetrate torture as much as those who might be subjected to it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Please. The Geneva convention exists to mask the efforts of those who would do it behind closed doors. As was proven during the current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 As was proven during the current situation. I'm sorry, there are so many current situations. Which one are you referring to specifically? "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I would assume the one in Iraq? Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Or Afghanistan, or Guantanamo, or extraordinary rendition in Europe. The Geneva Convention makes it harder for governments to commit abuses by forcing them to do it under the cover of secrecy and lies and shame. Or is it better to do it openly? If we're to have torture in Guantanamo, why not in the town square as well? "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 If you're going to do it, might as well be honest about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 The Western world is civilized and would prefer, if such an incident occur, kept in the dark. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darque Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 The Western world is civilized and would prefer, if such an incident occur, kept in the dark. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If the incidents occur at all, that proves they aren't civilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 If the incidents occur at all, that proves they aren't civilized.Get real. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Darque is right. We live in the pretense of civility but in truth we are savages. We do torture and kill, and there is a small amount of pleasure when we do so. It doesn't matter if we do it in secret or out in the public known to all. The fact that it is done at all shows that we are just beasts, hiding behind the viel of righteousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I'm sure you think that sounded really deep, but in fact, it was quite lame. Anyway, it seems to me that you need to revise your definition of "civilized". - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 (edited) Actually I don't think anything that i type here or anywhere else as deep. In fact I don't care if it sounds deep or not. That is for others to decide. What other people think is deep or not is irrelevant to me. I just type out what I feel at the moment on the subject matter currently at hand. No more and no less. As for the definition of civilized person I define it as a person who knows when to interere and when to mind his or her own business. A civilized person would act benign to others without judging or bringing harm unless it is self defense. A civilized person would seek justice if such justice is wanted by those who are victimized by others, and such justice is swift and fits the crime done without malice. There is no such thing as a civilized person in this world and humans, by their very nature, will never become truly civilized. Edited June 9, 2006 by Judge Hades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Moth Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Well, at least he's honest about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I think it is funny that there is always someone accusing me of trying to be deep when I never try to be deep. I think they are reading way to much into what I am typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I think it is funny that there is always someone accusing me of trying to be deep when I never try to be deep. I think they are reading way to much into what I am typing. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And you are typing way to much then what we are willing to read. http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 QFT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Your point? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you obviously have never read the geneva convention, yet somehow you think we should be following it. a soldier is not "just a soldier" out of uniform. they need to be clearly marked that they are soldiers. duh. dang hades, sometimes... taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 Sometimes a soldier is off duty when combat begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 And how many of those off-duty soldiers go off to war without getting into uniform? But hey, if you get pleasure out of torturing people, then I'm not going to argue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted June 9, 2006 Share Posted June 9, 2006 I wouldn't torture anyone. Thats a soldier's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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