SteveThaiBinh Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Scientists say subatomic particles can exist in more than one state at the same time, so while they're taking measurements that prove light isn't going inside the machine, it's quantum nature let's it do just that whilst also remaining outside. The Zeno effect is basically them 'proving' the light hasn't gone inside the machine (even though it has). It seems to me the article is making a big fuss over how the computer answers the question without 'running' because the photon doesn't enter it, but actually all that's happening is the question is being inputted by different means, by 'quantum flirtation' rather than the photon. The scientist says the computer has not run, but in fact it has both run and not run, and it's therefore less surprising that it should have produced an answer (as well as not produced an answer, which presumably you wouldn't notice so much). "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 4, 2006 Author Share Posted March 4, 2006 But are the Quantum thingies REAL or theoretical particles like the whole String+Mtheory hype? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Real. But it's hard to get a handle on them, because (obviously) they are too small to see (anything smaller than the wavelength of visible light can't be see, no matter how much magnification you use); so the only way to detect the particles is indirectly (when they hit something else, for example). See Schr OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Scientists say subatomic particles can exist in more than one state at the same time, so while they're taking measurements that prove light isn't going inside the machine, it's quantum nature let's it do just that whilst also remaining outside. The Zeno effect is basically them 'proving' the light hasn't gone inside the machine (even though it has). It seems to me the article is making a big fuss over how the computer answers the question without 'running' because the photon doesn't enter it, but actually all that's happening is the question is being inputted by different means, by 'quantum flirtation' rather than the photon. The scientist says the computer has not run, but in fact it has both run and not run, and it's therefore less surprising that it should have produced an answer (as well as not produced an answer, which presumably you wouldn't notice so much). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Pretty much There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Do I believe someone called moose with a badger avatar about quantum theories.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Do I believe someone called moose with a badger avatar about quantum theories.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes and no. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Sounds like a paradox. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Do I believe someone called moose with a badger avatar about quantum theories.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes and no. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> A Badger in Moose superposition. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 You're a superpostion. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted March 5, 2006 Author Share Posted March 5, 2006 Thankyou. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Next phase : Quantum Sex! (w00t) http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Next phase : Quantum Sex! (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure your girlfriend has sex without being turned on all the time! It was right there, I had to, I'm soooo sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Next phase : Quantum Sex! (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure your girlfriend has sex without being turned on all the time! It was right there, I had to, I'm soooo sorry <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <_< " http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 lol you walked right into that one Astro There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astr0creep Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 lol you walked right into that one Astro <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe it was a quantum joke. If I'm quantum lucky. http://entertainmentandbeyond.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 No, no, that was a joke joke I can tell, because I lit you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Next phase : Quantum Sex! (w00t) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Close but you missed it by 2 AU's. Quantum closure. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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