Then call it a penalty infraction. I don't care for that kind of penalty clal; but I cna live it. But, fining players who dive; but not fining players who also trip, elbow, and crosscheck (not counting severe ones) is just plain silly.

 

I mean at leats when a player dives they aren't trying to physically hurt another player like tripping, elbowing, and crosschecking players are.

Tripping penalties aren't attempts to hurt another player most of the time either.

Yes, they are. You trip someoneone going at the speed they're going at on ahrd ice it is an attempt to injure them as far as I'm concerned. Remember, that diving usually takes palces when another player is already hooking and/or grabbing the diver in question. Which is a whole 'nother reason why diving is a poor penalty to call in 99% of cases.

Edited November 17, 200520 yr by Volourn

Yes, theya bre. You trip someoneone going at the speed they're going at on ahrd ice it is an attempt to injure them as far as I'm concerned.

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Don't you play hockey? When I trip someone it's to get an advantage in the game. When I elbow someone it's because I missed a hit (usually, doesn't happen very often). When I crosscheck it's to keep the other player down. Only time I try to 'hurt' another player is if I end up in a fight. And that doesn't happen very often.

Yeah, you 'accidently' hit someone with your elbow. I might buy that .111% of the time; but most oftne that isn't the case.

 

And, yes, I've played hockey. And, I've seen dirty players. I have *never* thrown an elbow. I have never crosschecked. Afterall, a crosscheck is using your stick to hit the player with force. I have accidently tripped someone when going for the puck so I can see that happening. Tripping to me is an acceptable penalty as it's something that can honetslky happen accidently frequently.

 

If you elbow someone and espicially if you crosscheck someone you are a dirty player.

 

And, yes, I am saying Mark Messier cna be a dirty player. So, you lose with that point.

 

I want clean hockey; not players trying to injure other players than claiming an 'accident' when they purposefully stuck their stick in someone's back or their elbow in someone's face.

 

Hahaha.

 

P.S. I suck at ice hockey 'cause I suck at skating. R00fles!

Edited November 17, 200520 yr by Volourn

Most tripping penalties are on plays for the puck. Not with an intent to trip.

Most is an overstatement. Proof please.

The proof is in the pudding.

 

Watch the game.

 

 

 

(BTW, I didn't see much proof that tripping is all about knocking down fast skating players with an intent to injure either).

On an unrelated note, Columbus' signing of Sergei Federov means that the Jackets have to free up some cap room. The first victim is former Oiler Todd ' hands of stone' Marchant.

 

Marchant had a career year for the Oil back in 02-03, the last year of his contract with the team (Marty Lapointe anyone) , with 20 goals and 60 points total. Edmonton offers a paltry million five to the guy, who says thanks but no, then signs a four year deal with Columbus worth 12-14 mil.

 

Now he's on the chopping block, and I'd hate to say this wouldn't have happened if he would've signed for less with the Oil, but...

"BTW, I didn't see much proof that tripping is all about knocking down fast skating players with an intent to injure either)."

 

Proof is in the pudding. Watch the game.

 

It's very often I say a player stick their stick in between the player who passing them's leg while NOT going for the puck to trip them off (or they'll hook them). That's intent to injur as far as I'm concerned.

How creative. Not overwhelmingly surprising however

 

 

There's a reason why tripping is one of the few "okay" penalties in minor league hockey.

Tripping and hooking are all about slowing down a fast player. I get tripped every single game I play. Usually I get at least one call out of it, but I expect to get tripped because I'm fast. If you get hurt on a trip, you aren't playing smart. If you are blowing by a defensemen, he's gotta do what he can to stop you. It's all part of the game.

I wonder what Columbus GM Doug MacLean is thinking tonight...

Just finished reading an article out of USA Hockey, and Crosby isn't even listed in the Top Five Rookies. So much for him being the next Wayne.

 

By the way, I was just wondering what level and tier you were in mkreku?

Edited November 17, 200520 yr by kotorkyle

well if its usa today, they must know!!

Calgary wins it's 8th straight.

Calgary wins it's 8th straight. 

 

I agree, this is one trend I hope continues for a long time

Boo-urns at Calgary winning

seconded!

 

BTW how long is Calgarys' longest winning streak?

Edited November 17, 200520 yr by Kor Qel Droma

seconded!

 

BTW how long is Calgarys' longest winning streak?

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10 games. That was before they moved to Calgary though.

so that's still two shy of the Oiler record then... "

 

Now that's a line to fear.

Not quite as scary as this, Mkreku...

 

And for an added laugh check out the Edmonton Oilers website where under the live section you can hear Igor Ulanov talk perogies!!!

Urk!! What a horrible picture! Why did he have to steal my favourite Leafs suit?! I'll never be able to wear it in public again

 

Anyhow, Leafs won their third straight! Tellquist got a start and he was awesome! I really wish Quinn would give him a little more confidence. He used to be very good when he played in Sweden and in the swedish national team, but it seems he never gets to play with the big boys in North America. I don't trust Belfour anymore.

 

Ottawa won too. Alfredsson scored two new ones. He really wants that scoring title this year.

Anyone catch the end of the Lightning game? I turned it off at the start of the 3rd period...