Iran, North Korea get a new partner

[Laozi]

It seems everywhere you turn theres a small country looking to develop nuclear arms.

 

 

http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?iss...133&n=1&ref=myy

[Musopticon?]

Great gag.

[metadigital]

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[Shryke]

the onion rules :D

[SteveThaiBinh]

Why is it that when I read this and I hear the word 'Nukehavistan' in my mind, it's automatically George Bush's voice that's saying it.

[Kor Qel Droma]

Favorite food:Yellow Cake. They must be fans of Chapelles show

[Commissar]

Why is it that when I read this and I hear the word 'Nukehavistan' in my mind, it's automatically George Bush's voice that's saying it.

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That's pretty odd.

 

No way could Bush pronounce it.

[Atreides]

I'm surprised that "old Europe" actually decided to handle negotiations with Iran. I suppose they are geographically closer to them after all.

[kumquatq3]

I'm surprised that "old Europe" actually decided to handle negotiations with Iran.  I suppose they are geographically closer to them after all.

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And, sadly, they are starting to prove Bush correct...

[Drakron]

Europe preferes to be diplomatic at start before bring in the big guns.

 

Besides how do you stop a country from developing nuclear technology, if you bomb it it becames a act of war ... also its very hypocritical to prevent a country from developing as other countries did developed then and only suffered economical sactions.

 

I did not read that article but Iran is more likely getting nuclear technology from Paquistan that from North Korea.

[metadigital]

North Korea got it from Pakistan. "Dr Death" or whatever his moniker was, the dude in charge of the Pakistan nuclear programme, gave out nuclear secrets to everybody and their dog (or pregnant bitch) ...

[Drakron]

I find that hard to belive, basic nuclear technology is over 50 years old and North Korea nuclear program is at least 20 years old.

[kumquatq3]

Europe preferes to be diplomatic at start before bring in the big guns.

 

Nope, Germany has said war is off the table for them.

 

 

When you don't have force as a last measure, you don't seem to have a convicing arguement in this case.

[Lucius]

Europe preferes to be diplomatic at start before bring in the big guns.

 

Nope, Germany has said war is off the table for them.

 

 

When you don't have force as a last measure, you don't seem to have a convicing arguement in this case.

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Which is good, that means we only need to keep the UK and US under control, however warhungry their leaders are.

And who are we to say what Iran can and can't develop? It's the most hypocritical situation EVER for a nation like the US to say "Hey, you can't do that!" when you in fact have more of these weapons than anyone else on the planet!

[metadigital]

I find that hard to belive, basic nuclear technology is over 50 years old and North Korea nuclear program is at least 20 years old.

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I'm recalling (correctly, I believe) from recent current affairs summaries. What are your facts?

[Atomic Space Vixen]

Europe preferes to be diplomatic at start before bring in the big guns.

 

Nope, Germany has said war is off the table for them.

 

 

When you don't have force as a last measure, you don't seem to have a convicing arguement in this case.

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Maybe they're looking at the inroads Iran is making by itself towards open democracy. A LOT of the populace is striving towards change. Look at how unhappy they were with the clerics not allowing certain candidates to run during the last election. It might be taking time, but attacking Iran now will just undo this and polarize people towards the invaders and set real, lasting reform back in that country by decades.

[kumquatq3]

Europe preferes to be diplomatic at start before bring in the big guns.

 

Nope, Germany has said war is off the table for them.

 

 

When you don't have force as a last measure, you don't seem to have a convicing arguement in this case.

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Maybe they're looking at the inroads Iran is making by itself towards open democracy. A LOT of the populace is striving towards change. Look at how unhappy they were with the clerics not allowing certain candidates to run during the last election. It might be taking time, but attacking Iran now will just undo this and polarize people towards the invaders and set real, lasting reform back in that country by decades.

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I didn't say invade now or ever. i was responding to someone who said that Europe likes to talk before declaring war. I was simply point out that isn't tha case, in this case.

 

I said that Europe (germany specifically) have seemingly taken force off the table. hence you've lost that bargining chip. A very powerful one in this position, empty words or not, if you ask me.

[Drakron]

Well guess what?

 

There are more countries in europe that Germany, the fact Germany decided it does not want to participate in any military action against Iran does not make the rest of europe not considering that option.

 

Did I say europe id going to attack Iran?

 

No.

 

Chances are what happened with India, Paquistan and North Korea over their nuclear programs will happen with Iran.

 

Besides you must be silly to think force will ever be a argument to use against the Islamic Republic of Iran.

 

ELDAR EDIT: Please refrain from referring to folks as retarded, stupid, etc.

[kumquatq3]

Well guess what?

 

There are more countries in europe that Germany, the fact Germany decided it does not want to participate in any military action against Iran does not make the rest of europe not considering that option.

 

Considering their one of the few people heading up negotiations, I see it as very significant. It also prolly reflects apon their new close ties with France.

 

Especially when Schroeder, speaking on behalf of the spearhead by Germany, Britain and France said: "But take the military options off of the table," Schroeder said. "We have seen that they're not suitable."

 

So, maybe Sri Lanka is willing to attack, but their not a major player in this. Nor does it make it a creditable bargining chip.

 

please actaully know what I am referencing before you reply. It saves time.

 

Did I say europe id going to attack Iran?

 

No.

 

No, I didn't say you did, but enjoy clearifying yourself anyways.

 

Chances are what happened with India, Paquistan and North Korea over their nuclear programs will happen with Iran.

 

You mean they will get weapons due to softball diplomacy and half-assed security measures (got to love those "seals") and threaten world security? Neat!

 

Besides you must be retarded of the year to think force will ever be a argument to use against the Islamic Republic of Iran.

 

There are many ways to deploy force, especially if the goal is just to set back their nuclear programs.

[metadigital]

I didn't say invade now or ever. i was responding to someone who said that Europe likes to talk before declaring war. I was simply point out that isn't tha case, in this case.

 

I said that Europe (germany specifically) have seemingly taken force off the table. hence you've lost that bargining chip. A very powerful one in this position, empty words or not, if you ask me.

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Germany = political posturing ahead of election.

 

(Also Germany currently has no effective military force AND it may have been a political man

[kumquatq3]

I didn't say invade now or ever. i was responding to someone who said that Europe likes to talk before declaring war. I was simply point out that isn't tha case, in this case.

 

I said that Europe (germany specifically) have seemingly taken force off the table. hence you've lost that bargining chip. A very powerful one in this position, empty words or not, if you ask me.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Germany = political posturing ahead of election.

 

(Also Germany currently has no effective military force AND it may have been a political man

[Lucius]

Well guess what?

 

There are more countries in europe that Germany, the fact Germany decided it does not want to participate in any military action against Iran does not make the rest of europe not considering that option.

 

Considering their one of the few people heading up negotiations, I see it as very significant. It also prolly reflects apon their new close ties with France.

 

Especially when Schroeder, speaking on behalf of the spearhead by Germany, Britain and France said: "But take the military options off of the table," Schroeder said. "We have seen that they're not suitable."

 

So, maybe Sri Lanka is willing to attack, but their not a major player in this. Nor does it make it a creditable bargining chip.

 

please actaully know what I am referencing before you reply. It saves time.

 

Did I say europe id going to attack Iran?

 

No.

 

No, I didn't say you did, but enjoy clearifying yourself anyways.

 

Chances are what happened with India, Paquistan and North Korea over their nuclear programs will happen with Iran.

 

You mean they will get weapons due to softball diplomacy and half-assed security measures (got to love those "seals") and threaten world security? Neat!

 

Besides you must be retarded of the year to think force will ever be a argument to use against the Islamic Republic of Iran.

 

There are many ways to deploy force, especially if the goal is just to set back their nuclear programs.

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Who is to say that Iran will treathen world security more than, say, the United States with its countless amounts of WMD's?

[Commissar]

Ah, see, if Germany declared war to not be an option in response to us saying that it is an option, that I can understand.

 

There is not a country on this planet that will follow the United States into a Middle Eastern conflict after Iraq. And yeah, that includes Britain. They just won't do it.

[metadigital]

Australia will.

[Laozi]

Australia will.

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Ya I wish they'd ge out of our lap, they sweat alot