WITHTEETH Posted June 19, 2005 Author Posted June 19, 2005 Budda describes that the perfect person is highky intelligent and equally compassionate, i know this is subjective atleast in my opinion but i agree. Jesus seems to match this decription accuratly. Anybody here ever read the Ender's Game series? this is another example of this perfect person who saves the world. anyone else know of anyother fictional characters like the 2 i mentioned? " Always outnumbered, never out gunned! Unreal Tournament 2004 Handle:Enlight_2.0 Myspace Website! My rig
Cantousent Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 I loved Ender's Game. What makes it compelling is that Ender is such a humane character. He regrets every death for which he is responsible. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
EnderAndrew Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 I love the Ender books, obviously. But savior characters are fairly common in literature.
metadigital Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 Budda describes that the perfect person is highky intelligent and equally compassionate, i know this is subjective atleast in my opinion but i agree. Jesus seems to match this decription accuratly. Anybody here ever read the Ender's Game series? this is another example of this perfect person who saves the world. anyone else know of anyother fictional characters like the 2 i mentioned? " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fictional? Well it is a very common theme, from Luke Skywalker to Neo in the Matrix (remember his crucifixion in the denouement of the third film?). Recently there has been a change in literature where the "ordinary guy" saves the day, like Bruce Willis's John MacLane in Die Hard and even the tendency to find the heroic in the everyday, like "Perfect Storm" (I haven't seen this film owing to my pre-assessment that it would suck). OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
Cantousent Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 See, I completely ignored the fictional jibe! It's true that there is an everyman theme in literature, but it almost invariably involves some everyman fellow doing things far beyond the ability of every man. The heroic aspect of everyday life, however, is remarkable, as are anti-heroes. Some folks suggest that Frodo Baggins is an anti-hero. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
metadigital Posted June 19, 2005 Posted June 19, 2005 See, I completely ignored the fictional jibe! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well done! It's true that there is an everyman theme in literature, but it almost invariably involves some everyman fellow doing things far beyond the ability of every man. The heroic aspect of everyday life, however, is remarkable, as are anti-heroes. Some folks suggest that Frodo Baggins is an anti-hero. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would hesitate to make deep character analyses of any of those in the LotR; imo Tolkein has sketched them far too one-dimensionally (all good, like the fellowship, all bad like Sauron and Saruman). The only character that fought with his conscience, apart from the Disassociative Disordered Smeagol, was Boromir. I guess Frodo does change from na OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
EnderAndrew Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 I would hesitate to make deep character analyses of any of those in the LotR; imo Tolkein has sketched them far too one-dimensionally (all good, like the fellowship, all bad like Sauron and Saruman). The only character that fought with hsi conscience, apart from the Disassociative Disordered Smeagol, was Boromir.Most high fantasy has clear-cut good and evil. Despite that Boromir ends up appearing evil in many's eyes despite wanting nothing more than to vanquish the forces of evil. Gandalf appears as a hero despite manipulating others, making large-scale gambits and withholding vital information. There are several minor characters who also miss the larger picture of good and evil and concern themselves with politics instead.
metadigital Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Hehe, like the Steward of Gondor, Boromir and Faramir's father? He comes across as a lunatic chaotic evil, when his actions weren't that extreme (until his flips out and panicks in the big battle just before he dies). I think Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens and Peter Jackson did especially well giving as much light and shade to the characters as they did. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
EnderAndrew Posted June 20, 2005 Posted June 20, 2005 Hehe, like the Steward of Gondor, Boromir and Faramir's father? He comes across as a lunatic chaotic evil, when his actions weren't that extreme (until his flips out and panicks in the big battle just before he dies). I think Fran Walsh, Philippa Boyens and Peter Jackson did especially well giving as much light and shade to the characters as they did. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly.
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