Parkbear Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 First off, let me say that I have combed every forum I can find to find solutions to this. The farthest I have gotten in the game is seeing the opening movie of the Ebon Hawk and then crashing. Often I do not even get past, or even to, the character creation screen. The PC freezes solid with a black screen. Let me know if I have missed anything or you have any other solutions Things I have tried so far: ----------------------------- The last three and newest Catalyst drivers including 4.9 which some people were swearing by. Each previous version was removed using a scrubber to get rid of all traces. I also tried Omega and DNA drivers. Updating Sound Card and Via chipset drivers Disabling Movies and editing the swkotor.ini file as suggested by Lucas Arts renaming wnaspi.dll disabling Anti-virus, virtual drives and any other startup programs that would even remoteley impact KOTOR disabling AA,VS, dropping resolution and visuals to minimum Reinstalling Windows XP I am sure there are numerous other things I have done that I no longer care to remember. My system specs are all good: ---------------------------------- AMD 2500 768 mb RAM VIA chipset, KT333 Radeon 8500 128 mb ram - not the $%^& LE version. The non LE 8500 still way outperforms their lowest RECOMMENDED (not required) card, the 9200. 40 GB free on the install drive The PC is spyware free and has no issues running ANYTHING else Observations: --------------- -Lucas Arts support site is of no use at all -A game should not require me - or the numerous other ATI owners - to jump through hoops or wait 2 months for a patch after I laid down a lot of cash for it. -No wonder PC gaming is dieing when this type of product is given to us. The average user has no idea how to use the start button never mind update a driver. - It is not ATI's fault. Lucas Arts and Obsidian should have thoroughly tested it to make sure it was stable on all platforms. -For a game that runs on a Engine that is the same as the old game it sure has many bugs. And when you consider your average PC is now much more powerful than the XBOX it was written for I cannot understand any excuses - I can tell you I will not put down cash for Lucas Arts upcoming Star Wars RTS or Obsidians Neverwinter Nights 2 despite the fact they are my two favourite franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieKirby Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 First off, let me say that I have combed every forum I can find to find solutions to this. The farthest I have gotten in the game is seeing the opening movie of the Ebon Hawk and then crashing. Often I do not even get past, or even to, the character creation screen. The PC freezes solid with a black screen. Let me know if I have missed anything or you have any other solutions Things I have tried so far: ----------------------------- The last three and newest Catalyst drivers including 4.9 which some people were swearing by. Each previous version was removed using a scrubber to get rid of all traces. I also tried Omega and DNA drivers. Updating Sound Card and Via chipset drivers Disabling Movies and editing the swkotor.ini file as suggested by Lucas Arts renaming wnaspi.dll disabling Anti-virus, virtual drives and any other startup programs that would even remoteley impact KOTOR disabling AA,VS, dropping resolution and visuals to minimum Reinstalling Windows XP I am sure there are numerous other things I have done that I no longer care to remember. My system specs are all good: ---------------------------------- AMD 2500 768 mb RAM VIA chipset, KT333 Radeon 8500 128 mb ram - not the $%^& LE version. The non LE 8500 still way outperforms their lowest RECOMMENDED (not required) card, the 9200. 40 GB free on the install drive The PC is spyware free and has no issues running ANYTHING else Observations: --------------- -Lucas Arts support site is of no use at all -A game should not require me - or the numerous other ATI owners - to jump through hoops or wait 2 months for a patch after I laid down a lot of cash for it. -No wonder PC gaming is dieing when this type of product is given to us. The average user has no idea how to use the start button never mind update a driver. - It is not ATI's fault. Lucas Arts and Obsidian should have thoroughly tested it to make sure it was stable on all platforms. -For a game that runs on a Engine that is the same as the old game it sure has many bugs. And when you consider your average PC is now much more powerful than the XBOX it was written for I cannot understand any excuses - I can tell you I will not put down cash for Lucas Arts upcoming Star Wars RTS or Obsidians Neverwinter Nights 2 despite the fact they are my two favourite franchises. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> you did notice that a ATI Radeon 9200 or better is required??? also, from what i have read on multiple threads, 4.11 is the best driver for the game, but others have had bad luck with the 4.11 drivers and use the latest or someone even managed to use 3.10. lol The game has not arrived at my home yet, but i don't fore-see any problems since alot of people with ATI cards don't have problems. Some people do, some people don't, i guess its based on hardware and alot of luck. but what drivers are you using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Havel Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 you did notice that a ATI Radeon 9200 or better is required??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You should know that the Radeon 8500 is faster than the 9200. Don't trust the Ati denominations, some of them are quite confusing. For example, the 9500 Pro outperforms a 9600 Pro or XT, and the 9550 is also completely outperformed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieKirby Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 you did notice that a ATI Radeon 9200 or better is required??? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You should know that the Radeon 8500 is faster than the 9200. Don't trust the Ati denominations, some of them are quite confusing. For example, the 9500 Pro outperforms a 9600 Pro or XT, and the 9550 is also completely outperformed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> oh.....well, they always do confuse me. lol i wish ATI and Nvidia would work together to make a video card with the good parts of ATI and the good parts of Nvidia....now if that happend, a VERY good card would be born. and for a good twist, both ATI Catalyst and the Nvidia drivers would be compatible with it.......now that would be cool, but i doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashiki Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You should know that the Radeon 8500 is faster than the 9200. Don't trust the Ati denominations, some of them are quite confusing. For example, the 9500 Pro outperforms a 9600 Pro or XT, and the 9550 is also completely outperformed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It doesn't matter how 'fast' a card is, it has to do with hardware programing interupts and how the driver speaks to it. The 8500 doesn't have the same core as a 9200, to follow a 9600xt supports 2.1 shaders and other extensions in hardware, where the 9600 doesn't. Also to point out, hardware pipelining is diffrent on the series of cards. So is memory, etc, etc, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Havel Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Hum, exact. And I don't think this will be possible to have both of the best of Ati and nVIDIA in one single chip since the architectural choices are quite different and incompatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkbear Posted February 13, 2005 Author Share Posted February 13, 2005 the 9200 point is moot anyways as the 9200, is the minimum recommended, not required. The 8500 LE would still even meet minimum requirements. The 8500 was still more feature rich than the 9200 which was ATI's next gen budget card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Ni Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 You should know that the Radeon 8500 is faster than the 9200. Don't trust the Ati denominations, some of them are quite confusing. For example, the 9500 Pro outperforms a 9600 Pro or XT, and the 9550 is also completely outperformed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It doesn't matter how 'fast' a card is, it has to do with hardware programing interupts and how the driver speaks to it. The 8500 doesn't have the same core as a 9200, to follow a 9600xt supports 2.1 shaders and other extensions in hardware, where the 9600 doesn't. Also to point out, hardware pipelining is diffrent on the series of cards. So is memory, etc, etc, etc... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The 9200 or the GeForce 4 Ti is reccomended not required... To run KotOR 2, you simply need a 32MB T&L capable card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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