February 10, 200421 yr Should Obsidians new game not suck? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 10, 200421 yr Should you stop making random polls? YES! Please though. It's getting rather annoying.
February 10, 200421 yr Actually, I'm torn. Can't make up my mind. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
February 10, 200421 yr Should Obsidians new game not suck? That's a pretty silly question. Please stop spamming the boards Karzak. :angry: Rain makes everything better.
February 10, 200421 yr Author Should Obsidians new game not suck? That's a pretty silly question. Please stop spamming the boards Karzak. :angry: It isn't spam, please don't make assumptions. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 10, 200421 yr I voted no. Please make a sucky game so it would be a waste of your talents, money and our time and money. Don't see the point of the poll.
February 10, 200421 yr Author Makeing a sucky game usually = giving in to publishers pressures. Should I explain it deeper to you? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 10, 200421 yr Well, Karzak, all that your initial poll on this is "Should it not suck? Yes or No or Uncertain" Nothing about not giving into publisher's pressures or avoiding common pitfalls. There are lots of other reasons the game could suck as well.
February 10, 200421 yr Author Well, Karzak, all that your initial poll on this is "Should it not suck? Yes or No or Uncertain" Nothing about not giving into publisher's pressures or avoiding common pitfalls. There are lots of other reasons the game could suck as well. All the reasons that the game could suck are pretty much up to Obsidian, right? Are you saying that they are powerless to choose if the game sucks or not? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 10, 200421 yr Author Not really, critical acclaime and/or sales over costs. Pretty objective Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 10, 200421 yr So what would you conclude from here if the concensus of the poll was that the game should suck?
February 10, 200421 yr Author That people want Obsidian to crash and burn. Probably as revenge for lionheart. Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 10, 200421 yr Then they would want Reflexive and BIS to fail since Obsidian, as a company, had nothing to do with Lionheart.
February 10, 200421 yr I think I may have mentioned this before. Most employees at Obsidian had no involvement in Lionheart and the ones that did the involvement was light at most. Reflexive made their own choices in the game as to how to make it.
February 10, 200421 yr Author Then they would want Reflexive and BIS to fail since Obsidian, as a company, had nothing to do with Lionheart. LOL, only if you seperate the people from the companies, right? But I'm sure there could be other reasons why people would want Obs to put out sucky games, maybe some of the people who voted for sucky games would explain their votes? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 11, 200421 yr Then they would want Reflexive and BIS to fail since Obsidian, as a company, had nothing to do with Lionheart. LOL, only if you seperate the people from the companies, right? But I'm sure there could be other reasons why people would want Obs to put out sucky games, maybe some of the people who voted for sucky games would explain their votes? Most of the employees at Obsidian had nothing to do with Lionheart either. Go take a look at MobyGames. For designers, I think only Avellone was involved. For art, Brian Menze was involved. What involvement did they have? Can't say but it was probably light.
February 11, 200421 yr Author Most of the employees at Obsidian had nothing to do with Lionheart either. Care to list the ones that did, and their positions in both companies? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 11, 200421 yr Most of the employees at Obsidian had nothing to do with Lionheart either. Care to list the ones that did, and their positions in both companies? No, you can look them up as well as I can. I already mentioned two employees of both companies, Chris Avellone and Brian Menze, designer and artist respectively at both companies. http://www.mobygames.com/game/credits/p,3/gameId,8635/
February 11, 200421 yr Author Why not list the BIS guy who is the Obs guy who is very highly placed? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
February 11, 200421 yr Again, you did not exactly explain what the reason is behind your poll, Karzak. Making paranoid-like assumptions why they could deliver a sucky game and why they should fail or not is NOT in your's or mine hands, nor is it really appropriate to make assumptions why someone would want to crush OE. Just let them do their game and you'll see when it's done. Rain makes everything better.
February 11, 200421 yr Why not list the BIS guy who is the Obs guy who is very highly placed? I have no idea who you are talking about. Okay Feargus and Chris Parker were involved as well but Feargus's involvement was probably slight and they left before the game shipped as well. Hmm... So three of Obsidian's founders were involved in some form with Lionheart. Still the majority of the blame should go on Reflexive and perhaps on Interplay management for releasing it.
February 11, 200421 yr Author Just let them do their game and you'll see when it's done. You mean stop giving feedback to them? Have you missed the entire point of these forums? Let's keep the T&A in FanTAsy ***Posting delayed, user on moderator review*** Why Bio Why?
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