Arkan Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Ok, the joke's run its course. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Volourn Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Miss his layups? What exactly was his shooting percentage in both the regular season and play-offs? last i checked he was easily in the top 5. face it, comapritvely spekaing, Shaq doesn't mess normal shots much. Free throws, he isn't good at. He is the best player in the league. period. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 He is the best player in the league. period. That's too farfetched. Shaq isn't the best anymore. He used to be though. Age dragged him down. Current 3DMark
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Name one person that can consistently guard Shaq. Name one player. Even when LA got beat down in the Finals, Shaq had a pretty high field-goal percentage, and shot respectfully from the line. The Lakers refused to pass, and Kobe threw up a million desperation shots. Meanwhile, Gary Payton was as asleep on defense as Phil Jackson was on the bench, so guys like Billups were able to light up the scoreboard. The Laker's loss had very little to do with Shaq. Go back and watch the games. Shaq may not have a whole lot of great years left in the tank, but he could deliver a title in the next three years if a point guard and a defense appear around him. The Lakers are currently insane. Rudy T is a good coach, but who really wants to play for a team run by a player primadonna?
kumquatq3 Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 MIAMI (AP) -- Expect to see Shaquille O'Neal in a Miami Heat uniform next season. His agent does. Perry Rogers, said Sunday a blockbuster deal between the Heat and Los Angeles Lakers is imminent and could be official Wednesday when the NBA's two-week player movement moratorium expires. ``It still can't officially be done, of course, but I can tell you we're confident that this will move forward,'' Rogers told The Associated Press in a phone interview Sunday. ``We're excited about the prospects. We're confident that Shaquille will be moving to Miami soon.'' Miami is expected to send a package that includes Lamar Odom, Brian Grant, one other player -- perhaps Caron Butler -- and a first-round draft choice to Los Angeles in exchange for the 7-foot-1, 340-pound O'Neal, who demanded a trade shortly after the Lakers lost the NBA Finals to Detroit. Rogers said he did not know which players the Lakers and Heat have agreed to swap. ``What's been agreed to by (Heat president) Pat Riley and (Lakers GM) Mitch Kupchak, I have not been privy to,'' Rogers said.
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Well, it's up to Mitch Kupchak to pull the trigger on the Laker's side (which means Kobe has to tell him to).
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Even Kobe has to choose between Lakers or Clippers, or he is pulling our legs. Bad Kobe! Current 3DMark
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I think that Kobe is shopping teams like the Clippers to put fear into the Lakers. I bet Kobe will sign with the Lakers so long as Shaq gets traded.
kumquatq3 Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 I think that Kobe is shopping teams like the Clippers to put fear into the Lakers. I bet Kobe will sign with the Lakers so long as Shaq gets traded. Ditto BUT! It would be HILARIOUS if they traded Shaq and Kobe left.
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I just heard on SportsCenter that Kobe demanded to the Clippers that they would have to start moving the team to Anaheim (where Kobe lives) and play at least 15 games in Anaheim next year. I'm not sure where this would be? The Pond? Except the NBA and NHL season go at the same time, so that would be a pain.
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Kobe still has his trial, but I'd be surprised if he gets anything more than a hand-slap. Current 3DMark
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I have no clue. The trial hasn't started, and we really don't know much about it yet. I was pretty upset how that court reporter "accidentally" emailed suppressed documents presenting some of the prosecution's case to seven media outlets. It must have been a typo. She meant to email the suppressed documents to an invisible friend.
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Did you google in Kobe's accuser's picture? Is that really her? Current 3DMark
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I don't know. I haven't looked. I did hear several newspapers did release her name and pictures, to which she received death threats. Then again, the accusation is that she was bent over a chair and violated in an uncomfortable place (like the back of a VW?). So maybe, how she looked from the front wasn't nearly as important.
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Being bent over a chair is pretty cruel. Current 3DMark
kumquatq3 Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 I was pretty upset how that court reporter "accidentally" emailed suppressed documents presenting some of the prosecution's case to seven media outlets. I hear that I just heard on SportsCenter that Kobe demanded to the Clippers that they would have to start moving the team to Anaheim (where Kobe lives) and play at least 15 games in Anaheim next year. ****ing amazing isn't it? I tell you this right now: Whoever ends up with Kobe will be very very sorry.
kumquatq3 Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 Being bent over a chair is pretty cruel. You would know. ZING!
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Being bent over a chair is pretty cruel. You would know. ZING! Who's the smart @ss now, Shaq-hugger! Current 3DMark
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 How much would my Shaq bobble head be worth in twenty years? Current 3DMark
Arkan Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Depends on who you're trying to sell it to. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
kumquatq3 Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 Depends on who you're trying to sell it to. I'm guessing Bill Gates Asked recently how his team could best upgrade at center, Miami coach Stan Van Gundy laughed away a notion that Shaquille O'Neal would be the Heat's ideal solution. ``I think we could work him in,'' Van Gundy said
EnderAndrew Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Shaq is 32, but through last year was arguably the most dominate player in the NBA still. Yao Ming is still rising as a star. Which would you rather build a team around?
Bokishi Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 Hmmmm... Yao = Future Shaq = Old Deisel Bucket Current 3DMark
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