BruceVC Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 @Gorth If you dont mind sharing what specifically do you do with ERP systems, I always wanted to ask you but keep forgetting The eDiscovery software I work with has a license for SAP, Baan and other similar systems and on occasions I have worked with ERP technical consultants before to integrate into their environment but it was way to complicated for me to really understand how all the EPR modules work but I am fascinated with this type of software So what is your job title..,and I apologize if I am wrong with what you do for a living because I always thought you do work with ERP systems ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 23 hours ago, BruceVC said: @Gorth If you dont mind sharing what specifically do you do with ERP systems, I always wanted to ask you but keep forgetting The eDiscovery software I work with has a license for SAP, Baan and other similar systems and on occasions I have worked with ERP technical consultants before to integrate into their environment but it was way to complicated for me to really understand how all the EPR modules work but I am fascinated with this type of software So what is your job title..,and I apologize if I am wrong with what you do for a living because I always thought you do work with ERP systems ? I haven’t forgotten this and I do intend to answer. I might just create a new thread for it, like what do you actually do (not just what you did today) “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Split off from the politics thread, as it has very little to do with politics... @BruceVC Most of my working life has been with what was originally a Danish product, known as 'Navision' in the 1990's... It was the first IT job I got after university. I say IT job, because I had some really oddball jobs after finishing university in order to pay rent etc. nobody wants to hire people with no work experience. Eventually I got a lucky break and through a friend, got a lead to a company looking for somebody like me. Not too expensive and with a knack for programming. Did that for 5 years. While I was doing that, Microsoft bought the software and it became a Microsoft product. Thanks to that and me approaching terminal boredom in Denmark, decided to move abroad. The one good thing about Microsoft is, their products are sold all over the world and I had by then years of experience (always a selling point, trumping most other things). I did other things too, like building bespoke web applications, Windows CE (the precursor for handheld devices), but it was the ERP part that was my bread and butter. I still work with the same product 25+ years later, but it's now known as Microsoft Business Central and they push very heavily for people to join "The Cloud". I used to work ridiculous hours, like 60-80 hour work weeks for close to all of the first 20 years, being at times technical manager, developer team lead (for 8 years) and got noticeable grey hair before turning 30. One day I realized it wasn't worth it and I started aiming for positions that would give me a better work/life balance, like only working 40 hours a week. Something I should have done a long time ago. As for what I've actually done with all those ERP implementations over the years... oh dear. From implementations for small 5 person family companies to multinational corporations where we rolled out the software in 18 European countries (our teams being on site in all those countries). From weird, bespoke warehouse management systems over manufacturing, import systems (that was when I was living in England) for companies doing imports from the far east (goods costing, customs handling, container tracking etc.), supply chain management, CRM, e-commerce, freight forwarding and IVF (In vitro fertilization) solutions to a completely custom built solution for the wine industry (grape growing, processing/manufacturing, bonded warehouse handling for the high % stuff, bottling, sales, distribution and weird Aussie tax rules). I've probably left out approx. 9 out of every 10 projects, as they are either similar to the above or I simply forgot them 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 So close, and yet so far apart. I deal with the other ERP system Microsoft bought with the same company Gorth is talking about. Not sure if I want to talk about it (there's a rant about it from a year and a half ago, somewhere on this forum). Suffice it to say that some of the things it ships with out of the box are, and that's being nice, an insult. Some are downright insane. Although I can't reallly speak for the new 365'ed cloud version because we're not using that yet. @GorthDoes the new cloud version still use the same weirdo Pascalesque code the older versions did? 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) You guys work on interesting stuff. I'm working with an application still using TLS 1. The long term plan is to use https for our web portals! Guess should be glad we have a 64-bit version... Edited September 24, 2021 by Malcador 1 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, majestic said: So close, and yet so far apart. I deal with the other ERP system Microsoft bought with the same company Gorth is talking about. Not sure if I want to talk about it (there's a rant about it from a year and a half ago, somewhere on this forum). Suffice it to say that some of the things it ships with out of the box are, and that's being nice, an insult. Some are downright insane. Although I can't reallly speak for the new 365'ed cloud version because we're not using that yet. @GorthDoes the new cloud version still use the same weirdo Pascalesque code the older versions did? The application language is the same, C/AL. But the old, weird development environment has long since been replaced with Visual Studio Code (with a real debugger and Intellisense ftw.) and source control is done via Azure DevOps (edit: and Git) There is a bit of history behind the name C/AL. Navision was one of several Danish ERP systems competing for the domestic market back then. Commodore and Admiral were two other ones, besides Damgaard's offerings (which were named completely different, like Xal, C5, Axapta etc.). But Navision has a lot of fun with all kinds of sea side related names. C/AL being a pun on Sea and Application Language, the online licensing system was C/CAPS, the currency you bought modules and granules for a customers license were known as C/SHELLS, the old proprietary database system (call C/SIDE) had a C/ODBC interface and so on and so on. 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted September 24, 2021 Author Share Posted September 24, 2021 I will respond tomorrow with detail Gorthfuscious, its a public holiday today in SA....Heritage day !!! Its also called barbeque\braai in SA and Im busy with celebrating and of course this question I am asking is not a comparison to "who has the better job " its just because I am interested in the specific IT\software work most of us do and many of us are in the IT industry and Im genuinely interested. So I welcome anyone sharing what they do for a living but lets go into as much details as possible so its clear. Also whatever other people do for a living I would like to hear because again its always interesting "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, Malcador said: You guys work on interesting stuff. I'm working with an application still using TLS 1. The long term plan is to use https for our web portals! Guess should be glad we have a 64-bit version... Wouldn't call it interesting, but it's fine... mostly. I guess your company doesn't have an ISO 27001 certification? No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, majestic said: Wouldn't call it interesting, but it's fine... mostly. I guess your company doesn't have an ISO 27001 certification? Well.. we have versions that use TLS 1.2, that counts right ? It's our clients that suck. Yes. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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