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EDIT 9th April: Forbidden Fist currently isn't treated as weapon attack. This leads to a bundle of "problems" like generating no focus, not working with Sneak Attack, Swift Flurry, Lighting Strikes, Turning Wheel and so on on and so forth. The source of this is that its value for TreatAsWeapon in attacks.gamedatabundle is set to false. Intended or oversight? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hi, easy to reproduce: make a Forbidden Fist/Cipher and punch sombody with the Forbidden Fist ability: no focus gain. I hope this is not intended. I guess it's because FF uses its own base damage and is not correctly tagged as (weapon) attack but more as a spell of some sorts. Edit: obviously FF uses another type of attack then weapon melee attacks do. This prevents it from benefiting from a lot of abilites like Sneak Attack, Devoted's Bonus and so on. Even Swift Flurry and Heartbeat Drumming will not work with it as far as I could determine. It's not a bug technically - but it surely is weird for players who don't know the Deadfire mechanics in and out: that an unarmed attack (Forbidden Fist) works differently than any other unarmed attack (e.g. Force of Anguish or Stunning Blow with fists).
Increasing a character's stats past the baseline value of 10 should have only positive effects on gameplay and combat. Following this is good game design and makes sense. In PoE, there are many abilities that have drawbacks such as afflicting the character for a duration or forcing them to take damage. In all of those scenarios I've found, the following things happen with regard to self-harming effects: Duration increases with the player's INT, beneficial effect increase (like from Strand of Favor, which contradicts its description), and Power Level (if class ability). Damage the player takes increases with player's MIG, Power Level (if class ability), and all percent damage increases such as the human race bonus when bloodied or near death. Why does INT increase the duration of these harmful effects while RES simultaneously reduces it? Now we have two stats that the player wants to increase, both contradicting each other. INT should have no influence on duration, which will allow RES to do its job properly. The reason it works like this currently is that the game treats self-harming effects as both helpful and harmful. This should not be the case. On the other hand, ability self-damage should scale as the character becomes stronger to keep things balanced. All the abilities I mention below are relatively balanced to Power Level. Because self-damage is almost exclusively raw and all +% bonus damage increases will scale this damage up, it's easy to see that things can very quickly get out of hand. Forcing this self-damage to scale from Power Level only will allow DPS characters to use abilities like Frenzy and Sacred Immolation without having to compensate with high CON. The following abilities should be changed: Monk Forbidden Curse duration. Should be RES only. Monk Forbidden Curse damage tick. Should be PL only. Blood Mage's self-damage should be PL only. It's almost certainly being affected, but there's no tooltip and since it's random damage there's no way to prove it via screenshot. Paladin's Sacred Immolation damage tick. Should be PL only. Barbarian's Frenzy damage tick. Should be PL only. Blunderbuss's Powder Burns duration. Should be RES only. Wizard Spell Deleterious Alacrity of Motion. Should be PL only. Strand of Favor's passive effects both apply to self-inflicted effect duration. Only the Ward of Favor ability should apply. Fixing the scaling issues of harmful self-inflicted effects would be a strong improvement to combat overall. This will make the commonly ignored aspects of some classes and builds competitive, which would enhance the game's variety.
So, I'm getting a bit miffed. Forbidden Fist subclass is pretty much useless due to the duration bug with Forbidden Curse. No-one is going to play that class. And it will make new players who choose it despair and give up on the game in frustration. Cause: The subclass cannot generate enough wounds to use abilities. Henceforth it will be a class that mainly will use autoattacks. The issue is best explained in the three pictures attached. It's the starting fight with Benweth and his pirates. On FIRST use of Forbidden Fist, these things happen. 1) Damage breakdown: It applies an extra 25% damage. Which strangely is in red text. If you talk to the dev who designed the concept he/she will likely agree that this is wrong. It should apply the 25% extra damage on second curse stack. 50% on third stack, ete cetera. But not on first uncursed use. 2) Combat log. The curse duration is way way way too long for a first use. Waiting 19 seconds (best scenario) for your next wound, leads to a max of 3 wounds pr minute unless you get other debuffs on you. This duration happens because the curse doublestacks the duration with the following formula (10secsonds + 10seconds - resolve). This is bugged! Or very very badly designed. Like totally drunk-designed. Falling-down-barstool-drunk-designed. If intended. 3) The curse description is correct here. 25% extra damage on next use of Forbidden Fist. But the duration is way way too long. 4) Might bonus (over 10) means you take more damage from the curse. Intelligence bonus (over 10) extends the curse duration. This needs fixing. You need to overhaul the Forbidden Curse implementation. The subclass is - as of 4.1 - still unplayable. PS. Sorry for the slightly aggravated tone. But it's been broken the whole time and I know that others and I have posted about these bugs before.