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For me it's Associated Press (wide breadth of coverage), Voice of America (relatively unbiased American perspective), BBC (relatively unbiased British perspective), The Australian (Aus, centre-right), The Sydney Morning Herald (Aus, centrist), The Age (Aus, centre-left), Slashdot (technology), Physorg (science), Bloomberg (international), Reuters (international), and 3 news forums. I generally avoid every single Murdoch paper except The Australian, for obvious reasons (they're retarded populist hype pieces). That's mainly Fox News, The Daily Telegraph (Aus), and the Melbourne Herald Sun (Aus) for me. The Wall Street Journal is more reputable but Murdoch insists on making it pay to view, so...

No language should have words with different genders. It's a damn tragedy of linguistic proportions. You're wrong. German is awesome, because it makes these fine differences! Hitler agrees. Also, good to hear you can continue with your game.

Because I'm not going to be buying the game no matter what, ergo they have nothing to lose? Well you have plenty to lose. Edit: Oh, I see. Sif not buy it and support Obsidian anyway mang.

Yes, because if you give these guys an inch they'll take a mile. Censoring something like 4chan is just the start, not the end.

Actually, owing to the way NWN2 deals with cross-class skills, you can keep dialogue skills maxed out no matter what, provided you take at least one level in a class that has it as a class skill. Able Learner is really, really useful if you have a decent INT and plan on mixing classes. Haha, awesome! Cheers. Edit: Wait... so you're telling me that if I went Rogue 2 (evasion)/Druid x, as a Druid I'd have access to things like disable traps and pick lock permanently, with the level cap being equivalent to my combined character levels? Wow. Oh, wait, but I'd still need Able Learner to level them up well as a druid? I see.

What the ****? 4chan isn't illegal, but I suspect a move like this might be. Doesn't America have a competition regulator or consumer watchdog? Also, lol at pissing off Anonymous.

I've never heard of that, but I don't know why Blizzard is tying it to LAN, since they could just, y'know, fix b.net instead. I'm not privy to either codebase, so I can only make assumptions for why they wouldn't choose to, y'know, fix battle.net instead. Perhaps they see this as a cheaper overall solution (including lost sales for those that are upset about it). Blizzard losing fanbase because they took out some feature is like a dealer losing customers because he is raising the price per gram. Personally I think Diablo 3 is better than marijuana and speed. It also lasts longer.

Hah! You're not pulling me into a debate about moral relativity.

I just can't get into the game knowing full well I'll restart in a few days when MotB and SoZ arrive and thus have to do act 1 all over again. I'm going to play HoN and plan a character instead. Yuan-ti 1 Monk/Druid 25/Nature's Warrior 5 Str: 14 (power attack) Dex: 10 Con: 8 Int: 14 (some combat feats? any int dialogue checks?) Wis: 18 Cha: 14 Spellcasting Prodigy Extend Spell Empower Spell Power attack Natural Spell Toughness Improved Power attack Spell Penetration Greater spell penetration etc. Diplomacy Spellcraft Concentration Craft Alchemy Lore (PrC) Survival (PrC) some other stuff Hardest difficulty. The first act will be tough until I get to level 7 (really level 5) and can shapechange. Thoughts? Is it worth taking able learner and pumping Intimidation and Bluff if they'll always only be half my level? Would any dialogue checks actually succeed? Am I right in assuming Monks don't get multiclass penalties in NWN2? Jeff Hughes said that on the Bio boards in 2006 but obviously that was one man and a while ago. Edit: Oh, fuxxor it, I'll do a human druid and play a Yuan-ti bard or something in SoZ for the lulz.

Glad you Germans are beta testing for me. Got an earlier save?

Yeah OC is pretty much the weakest campaign of the whole pack, i was kinda dissapointed about it when i played it for 1st time, but at the end i had my share of fun So dont stop to play and if you want more fun, don't make yourself powerful character and make some "in-house rules" for yourself, like only 1 rest allowed per dungeon (that for example made the game more fun for me at 2nd playthrough ) Yeah OK. I'll set the difficulty to max aswell. Also, I felt this way about Deus Ex 1 and Planescape: Torment the first time I played them, and they became my favourite games of all time.

Oh come now, you can't honestly believe what's written in Revelations can you? I've grown soft in my old age and am willing to respectfully disagree about a lot of things regarding religions - some aspects I even envy or miss - but the fire and brimstone bit is just moronic.

I'm up to the Fort before Neverwinter and I'm just not feeling this game. I dunno I've heard MotB is on par with Torment and SoZ with BG1 so I'll push on, but something is missing. To be fair, it's still better than Oblivion and NWN1 OC. But NWN1 HotU was better than NWN2 OC I'm thinking. More exotic characters and locales.

Hahahahaha those are awesome.

I'm thinking we should return to the Norse traditions. Those were cool. Dark elves, trolls, giants, goblins, sex goddesses...

I come from a very Catholic upbringing but my family and friends are smart enough to know not to take everything in the Bible literally, especially not the apocalypse. Actually, I've noticed it seems to be Catholics who are more pragmatic about interpretting the Bible and Protestants tend to be more dogmatic and literal, so maybe you're just a loony Evangelical... or you're yanking my chain. YOU'RE A CULT MEMBER!!! YOU'RE A CULT MEMBER!!! I'm an Atheist. I said I come from a Catholic upbringing - not that I'm Catholic. Frankly I don't mind being associated with Catholicism, though.

I come from a very Catholic upbringing but my family and friends are smart enough to know not to take everything in the Bible literally, especially not the apocalypse. Actually, I've noticed it seems to be Catholics who are more pragmatic about interpretting the Bible and Protestants tend to be more dogmatic and literal, so maybe you're just a loony Evangelical... or you're yanking my chain.

That race is cheated I say I mean, absolutely not disadvantage, sweet stats bonuses, bonus feats, armor bonus, magic resistance, etc. I can't understand how the Deep Gnomes can have a ECL of +3 and that race only a +2 TBH I think that the Yuan-ti race is reasonably balanced. Two levels behind is a lot - fewer stat points, hitpoints, feats, and fewer spellcasting hit dice. On the other hand, the Svirneblin is underpowered for the ECL penalty, which is a shame. You continue in MotB with your character from the OC, so that would make it a level 20 (ECL not included) start if you bring your character from the OC in MotB. But since you start at level 18 (ECL not included) when you create a new character, perhaps there is a subtetly I'm not aware of. For Storm of Zehir, I think you start a level 3 or something, for your whole party. Oh! I'll have to restart the game when MotB arrives then. I've designed this char with the notion that it won't reach epic levels and is purely for NWN2. The devs said something about most characters being around level 18 the first time they play the game. 20 requiring solving pretty much every quest and exploring all areas. So new MotB chars starting at 18 makes some sense. A similar thing happened in ToB too.

It's worth pointing out that 2+2=10 or 11, with a simple change of bases. I also hear that some non-euclidean geometries can make a mess of even the simplest of arithmetic operations, too, but I never completed my math degree. There goes your unconditional truth, though. But that's wrong. 2+2 will always equal 4 under the Peano postulates (which is an interesting system because it uses an infinite set of axioms), no matter what base it is - it's not conditional (put in the term you prefer: Peano arithmetic is sound). The different bases simply use different symbols to represent 2 and 4. As an example, in another culture, this equality might be represented as 8+8=3, but if in that culture 8 is the number that comes after the number that comes after nothing, and 3 represents a doubling of said number, than it's perfectly consistent and unconditional. As to non-Euclidean geometries such as afffine, I haven't delved into them much myself, but I do know that one important characteristic about them all is that they have some axioms different to Euclidean, or removed from Euclidean (typically revolving around the 5th postulate regarding parallel lines). That makes them entirely different mathematical frameworks. Trying to use words like 'unconditional' or 'conditional' to compare an equality across two different axiomatic systems is an exercise in utter futility - it's trying to compare apples to oranges, and simply does not make sense. I recognise that you were largely being facetious with your reference to mathematics (which you signify with you remark about coming up with a non-trivial reply), but I just woke up and needed to do something to clear the cobwebs.

Can't wait to play a Yuan-ti Pureblood once I get SoZ. It's like a Drow but actually worth the ECL penalty. Also, I have questions about level caps. If epic levels are introduced in MotB, does that mean MotB ends at about level 30? Does it start at lvl 1? What about SoZ?

The OC without MotB is a pain when it comes too this, believe me. You can't select all of your characters at once, they all follow you if you don't give them orders to the contrary (generally not a nuisance, but sometimes I really wanted to be sneaky with my stealthy character, and ordering everyone to just stand there was a pain), the camera is glued to the character you're controling, etc. They just took NWN's model while adding control of all your companions. A pain, I say. MotB added the Strategy Mode for the camera, a BIG improvement for me. Things are a lot better with this. Even if they forgot the unforgettable : a shortkey to select everyone at once without having to draw a selection box. Good to hear about MotB. I'm getting by with just selecting all via the silly hotkey. But I have to make sure they're always selected otherwise some sod runs off to a monster far away to battle it by himself. Totally annoying. Certainly the latest graphics driver. Everything else is up to date to about April, so I don't think drivers will fix the problem unfortunately. As I mentioned in the other thread they've become less frequent now, and bearable. Might have been shadows. Pope: there's a hold button?! Hooray! Clerics are fine, but I've always preferred Druids. Plenty of healing power, more offensive spells, some more exotic buffs, an animal tank, and some truly awesome shapeshifting (with which you dish out massive damage, tank supremely, and cast spells from once you've got the Natural Spell feat... you also look cool).

Hmm. Apparently unless you patch in the following way you get problems: NWN2 -> MotB -> SoZ -> SoZ patch or something like that. Something about the vanilla NWN2 patches conflicting with the expansions. Anyway, the freezes are either rare, or occur far less frequently with shadows turned off completely (since I've been able to up the textures to max with no performance problems and few if any freezes). Speaking of graphical glitches, ramza, the only ones I get are that animal companion and familiar portraits are totally messed up. But that's a minor thing.

Junai, you could make a killing doing comedy for a living.

They do when once upload them.

Cheers MC. I'll wait till the expansions arrive and then try again. Hopefully the freezing is fixed.