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    [WIP] Pure Wizard Build for Lore/Metaphysics/the Archmage DLC - Thoughts and Critique?

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!)

    Posted · Edited by Teclis23

    I must admit one of the main reasons i was able to complete beast of winter starting at level 13 so easily (on POTD) was with the level 3 spell that does raw damage in a ray. I think its called something death ray. It is an evocation spell and i wasnt playing as an evoker nor using any evoker item power level buffs.

     

    An Evoker built for enhancing this spell with high might would do some really serious damage

    Deadfire seems to have topped the sales charts on GOG

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)

    Posted · Edited by Teclis23

     

     

     

    Just checked Steam and currently Deadfire is:

     

    380th top selling game

    97th top selling RPG

    Where are you getting that from? I've done a search on Steam for games with the tag RPG and ordered by top seller (here's a link, although I don't know whether it'll work properly: https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=122&filter=topsellers&page=2) and Deadfire appears in the 37th place.

     

    However there are two things to consider with this:

    • This method of determining top sellers only represents sales within a window, not all time sales, and that window isn't stated (I know this because the overall top seller at the moment is Two Point Hospital and I can guarantee to you that that hasn't outsold PUBG in absolute terms).
    • If we look at the other entries in the top selling Steam RPGs we see some weird things. For example, not surprisingly there are three entries in the top 25 for The Witcher 3 (the GOTY edition, the base game and the expansion pass), four entries for Black Desert Online and two entries for Divinity Original Sin 2. That's a total of nine entries in the top 25 for just three games. Moreover there are some games in the list whose status as RPGs is questionable e.g. Crusader Kings 2, Payday 2 and Stardew Valley.

    Given these two factors I don't see Deadfire's position in this ranking as being representative of very much. It clearly doesn't represent overall sales (overwise PUBG or CSGO would definitely be at the top of the overall top sellers), the rankings are bloated by multiple entries for the same game and they include games that Deadfire shouldn't even be being compared to.

     

    EDIT: of course if I am being naive in my method for checking top sellers and there's a better method please do correct me.

     

    I just checked again

     

    I did exactly what you did. I searched by RPG and then checked the top selling RPGs. Deadfire is on the 10th page. There are 15 games per page.

     

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    and this is why i said i get frustrated with steams games sold reports. They are all over the place and fluctuate alot. I get the feeling that they just manipulate the top sellers lists for marketing purposes. 

     

     

    Well, the only Steam sales "report" you can somewhat rely on after SteamSpy became useless is the weekly top 10 that gets published on websites every week like here.

    Deadfire has appeared in the Steam top 10 charts exactly twice. The first time in the week of its release in 4th place and in its second week in 9th place.

     

    You can not really use the charts on Steam. The "top sellers" are completely useless because that listing is heavily influenced by algorithms that will show you games you might be interested in. Steam uses A LOT of tracking, metrics and algorithms to make you buy games ;) .

     

    Games you have wishlisted or certain genres you favor will appear on this list more frequently for example. Steam is a pretty intricate sales tool. They track every mouse movement of yours with invisible pixels and create heatmaps based on your input and stuff like that.

     

    The "global top sellers" list is the more "objective" one AFAIK but it's always just a snapshot that is covering a certain period of time. It's useless w/o knowing the source data how that list is populated or else SteamSpy would not have become useless if you could easily derive data from such an easily accessible source.

     

    That's why the only somewhat reliable data we have -aside from concurrent/peak player numbers- is that weekly top 10 sales chart which AFAIK is sent out to the press via Valve's independent auditor (Pricewaterhouse Coopers, I believe).

     

    thanks this is awesome

     

    You sound like you have insider industry knowledge

     

    Do you have access to or no how many copies deadfire has sold on steam? Apart from that speadsheet that was "leaked " a couple of months ago that indicated deadfire had sold 230,000 copies on steam

     

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    and if steam is doing this they should be reported to authorities. Where is live in Australia they have just been fined 3 million dollars for ripping off customers

    Deadfire seems to have topped the sales charts on GOG

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)

    Posted · Edited by Teclis23

     

    Just checked Steam and currently Deadfire is:

     

    380th top selling game

    97th top selling RPG

    Where are you getting that from? I've done a search on Steam for games with the tag RPG and ordered by top seller (here's a link, although I don't know whether it'll work properly: https://store.steampowered.com/search/?tags=122&filter=topsellers&page=2) and Deadfire appears in the 37th place.

     

    However there are two things to consider with this:

    • This method of determining top sellers only represents sales within a window, not all time sales, and that window isn't stated (I know this because the overall top seller at the moment is Two Point Hospital and I can guarantee to you that that hasn't outsold PUBG in absolute terms).
    • If we look at the other entries in the top selling Steam RPGs we see some weird things. For example, not surprisingly there are three entries in the top 25 for The Witcher 3 (the GOTY edition, the base game and the expansion pass), four entries for Black Desert Online and two entries for Divinity Original Sin 2. That's a total of nine entries in the top 25 for just three games. Moreover there are some games in the list whose status as RPGs is questionable e.g. Crusader Kings 2, Payday 2 and Stardew Valley.

    Given these two factors I don't see Deadfire's position in this ranking as being representative of very much. It clearly doesn't represent overall sales (overwise PUBG or CSGO would definitely be at the top of the overall top sellers), the rankings are bloated by multiple entries for the same game and they include games that Deadfire shouldn't even be being compared to.

     

    EDIT: of course if I am being naive in my method for checking top sellers and there's a better method please do correct me.

     

    I just checked again

     

    I did exactly what you did. I searched by RPG and then checked the top selling RPGs. Deadfire is on the 10th page. There are 15 games per page.

     

    edit 

     

    and this is why i said i get frustrated with steams games sold reports. They are all over the place and fluctuate alot. I get the feeling that they just manipulate the top sellers lists for marketing purposes. 

    [WIP] Pure Wizard Build for Lore/Metaphysics/the Archmage DLC - Thoughts and Critique?

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!)

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    @op

     

    You overthinking it.

     

    Currently, as the game stands you will be able to break the game even on the hardest difficulties with any wizard build. After you hit level 14 the game becomes a cakewalk

     

     

    Is it really that bad? I was kind of hoping that it'd at least be fun, having access to all of those high level spells like Cloak of Death and Wall of Many Colors. Plus, narratively, I feel like there might be more reactivity out of the last DLC for a wizard than a Barbarian-pirate.

    Its worse then what you think. The balncing is in complete ruin on the later levels. I highly advise you dont use any betaths blessings , play

    With non min- maxed companions and use a difficulty mod

    Deadfire seems to have topped the sales charts on GOG

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)

    Posted

    I just go to the steam store and check the top sellers.

     

    I have noticed it fluctuates alot going up and down all over the place

     

    I check it regularly and im fairly confident it isnt selling well on steam.

     

    I guess one of the reasons i keep checking it is because i am very surprised it isnt selling well on steam. I was really expecting deadfire to hang around in the top 50 and atleast in the top 100.

     

    Unless someone knows something i dont like i said it deosnt look like its selling well

    On there

    melee DPS that can beat Mage DPS

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!)

    Posted · Edited by Teclis23

    Yeah and a rogue/ monk can spam AOE abilities non stop in just about every fight in the game. This will be far more effective then doing dps damage.

     

    It is the strongest abuse in this game at the moment and i cant believe it has gone this far without getting nerfed.

     

    A rogue/ monk with dual mortars is better at crowd control then anyone

     

    And if u use aloths armor plus 2 rings of overseeing the build is downright broken. This

    Build is the main reason i had to stop my last playthrough becauee it was getting to easy at around level 14 on potd

    melee DPS that can beat Mage DPS

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Characters Builds, Strategies & the Unity Engine (Spoiler Warning!)

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    On single target, my best bet is a shadowdancer rogue/monk.

     

    One AOE, I'm thinking about a figher/monk or berserker/monk or paladin/monk with Sacred Immolation.

    The temptation of using dual hand-mortars for a rogue/ monk is to strong. Highly unlikely he will stick to single target dps when he discovers these weapons and what you can do with them.

    Deadfire seems to have topped the sales charts on GOG

    in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)

    Posted · Edited by Teclis23

    https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2018/08/08/weekly-pc-download-charts-no-mans-sky-monster-hunter-world-depose-pubg/

    Good news i suppose.

    Also seems to be selling well on gamersgate.

    I wish we had more transparency from steam. I usually check the topsellers on steam evey now and then and deadfire does not appear to be consistenty sitting in the top 100. This is very strange if it is topping gogs charts. I must admit steams sales charts are very frustrating to interpret for these purposes.

    I am only interested in this data to see how well the game is selling because i want a poe3.

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