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Atheosis

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    I've never understood what the big deal is with dump stats. Real life has dump stats depending on what your line of work is.

    From longtime Magic the Gathering design czar Mark Rosewater:

    Game (and puzzle) design is very different from most types of design. For example, let's say you're designing a lamp. You want every component of the lamp to be as obvious as possible. The switch to turn it on should be where you would expect it to be and the switch should be as simple as possible – most likely on/off. Every element of the lamp from how to move the light to what plugs in should be as clear and intuitive as possible. The goal of lamp design is to make the lamp easy to use.

     

    Game design though isn't about removing obstacles but adding them. Let's suppose that a game designer set out to design a game lamp. Well, how to turn on the lamp wouldn't be obvious. The switch wouldn't be where you expect it or even necessarily look like a switch. How the lamp moved or plugged in would not be simple and the reason being that the point of a game lamp would be for users to figure it out.

    Game design != life design, therefore your argument is invalid.

     

     

    A CCG designer is not an authority on RPG design, so I'd actually say your argument is the one that's invalid.  I actually think the biggest issue with PoE's attributes is that they tried to make a system that didn't have dump stats.  In trying to fix a problem that didn't actually exist they only made a screwy system that doesn't make much sense.

  2. You really can not compare this game to NWN because in NWN you got the tool set to create your own worlds and stories with the added edition of being a DM in a world whether you played network or online.  I had a create world which I hosted online for a few years.  This gave players more to work with and a lot of modules to play just like expansions not to mention the custom content via CEP.  I still play and create mods for it.

     

    I loved DA I, II and III and just recently started playing Mass Effect.  Mass effect is almost like an upgrade for Knights of the old republic games for me.  However when people talk about old games all of these to me are not old especially when compared to SSI Gold box RPGS for Dungeons and Dragons (Pool of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, Secret of the Silver Blades, Savage Frontier and even Kyrnn Series.  As I said before old games can include Bards Tale I, II and Might and Magic series.  In the end old or new each game has its ups and downs, bottom line if your having fun then its the game for you.  (I can name a lot more old rpgs than that which I have and still play).

     

    Old games are not 1998 but closer to 1985 which is when Bards Tale came out.  Talk about dating ones self!

     

    Old is a relative term.

  3. I'm a bit more conflicted on XP now.  On the one hand, the easiest way to fix a power differential would be lowering sidequest xp.  On the other, there's more and in some cases more interesting content based on sidequests.  A lot of times characters who do sidequests have accomplished a lot more, and that should be noted by somewhat significant in game progress.

     

    I firmly believe what they need to start with is bounties and other Caed Nua xp rewards.  If they cut those by 70-80% they address a huge part of the problem rather easily.

  4. This is really getting pathetic.  Sensuki's temper tantrums, the sudden flood of negative spam, the troll codex review, etc.  It's a bunch of incestuous communities realizing that their groupthink isn't dominant, and they don't own works of creative expression that they had no part in making.  The comments, like the original post, are neither valuable nor insightful.

     

    If the game was really bad, people would be ignoring it.  I can't think of the last time I talked about Assassin's Creed 1 or the Syndicate FPS.  To give an rpg example, I'll talk the **** out of some Geneforge and Avernum/Exile, but I've mostly ignored Avadon.  People are still talking about and enjoying PE, despite the trolls.

     

    Agree 100%.  Well said.

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    Oh and the reason is because I see you and others trying to poison the PoE well, actively trying to hurt its sales as far as I can tell, and I refuse to let you people have your little echo chamber of negativity.

     

     

    And to be clear I have no problem with people not liking the game, or even hating the game, but it's downright ridiculous to spam its forums with the same negativity over and over again. 

     

    LOL.

     

    New to the Obsidian Forums I see. What you're seeing with people being negative to the game isn't something new. There have been people critical of the design decisions over the last two years including myself.

     

    Oh btw, welcome to the Obsidian forums. Get used to it.

     

     

    Yeah, but I'm not new to forums in general.  This particular forum is full of a lot of grognards who need help though. 

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    Yes because it echoes your own hyper-negative views that you want to discuss ad nauseum for some reason.

     

    Poor ROI

     

     

     

    Oh and the reason is because I see you and others trying to poison the PoE well, actively trying to hurt its sales as far as I can tell, and I refuse to let you people have your little echo chamber of negativity.

     

    Hahah, oh man. How old are you?

     

    A bit of negativity on one forum and one thread of a different forum isn't going to do squat, plus I've already given the game a lot of positive exposure over the last two years, particularly around the release date with my character creation videos and contribution to the IE mod.

     

    If I wanted to truly be 'harmful' (in a laughable way) I would remove my videos from the internet. Why would I bother doing that?

     

     

    The better question is how old are you?  An adult would accept that things didn't work out the way they wanted and would get over it.

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    Oh and the reason is because I see you and others trying to poison the PoE well, actively trying to hurt its sales as far as I can tell, and I refuse to let you people have your little echo chamber of negativity.

     

    lol

     

    I'm pretty sure that people discussing a negative review on these forums won't affect PoE sales at all.

     

    Obsidian/Paradox have their own marketing machine, they don't need us (customers/fans) to self-censor our critical discussions in order for them to succeed financially.

     

     

    What marketing?  PoE has virtually none from what I've seen.

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    So, the majority of IWD/BG veterans hate POE? Serious question, can we get some statistics on this that don't point to this group being a "handful of people"?

    For what it's worth, general notion from three RPG dedicated boards I poke in on somewhat regular basis is that BG fetishists hate PoE; BG veterans find it to be kinda okay but requiring loads of additional work to shine; people having vague idea of BG either like it very much or hate it just as much.

     

    I don't claim that it's statisitically representative, but notion stands.

     

    Edit: typos

     

     

    Your first mistake was relying on message boards to get any sense of what people in general think. 

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    And again I say to you get over it.  I've had games that I had high hopes for that didn't turn out the way I wanted them to.  The difference is that I didn't go on those game's forums and spam it with pointless negativity day after day.  The game is never going to be what you wanted it to be.  Let it go.

    You fancy yourself an authority figure.... spouting orders to people, demanding that they stop posting and act more like you. How silly.

     

    Hey Faux Moderator, I have a question. This thread reached the 500 post count limit quite a while ago. Why haven't closed it yet? Oh, that's right. I forgot, you're not a f*cking moderator. That's why.

     

     

    Nah, just giving advice.  Seriously, things in life don't turn out the way you want much of the time.  You can whine and bitch about it to no avail or you can move on with your life.  And to be clear I have no problem with people not liking the game, or even hating the game, but it's downright ridiculous to spam its forums with the same negativity over and over again. 

  10. You wouldn't have to see these posts if you didn't read this thread :p Why do you continue to read it if you don't enjoy the thread content?

     

    You see the irony in this post yes?

     

    Oh and the reason is because I see you and others trying to poison the PoE well, actively trying to hurt its sales as far as I can tell, and I refuse to let you people have your little echo chamber of negativity.

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    I don't really pay much attention to the things you post

    This is a lie. His posts consume you and drive your emotions. And everyone here sees that.

     

    If you want to believe that I can't stop you, but I seriously don't even read his posts most the time because I already know what they say.  It's kind of sad really.  All the people who can't enjoy this game for whatever reason are some rather sad and bitter people as far as I can tell.  And why they continue to post here is beyond me.

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    I don't really pay much attention to the things you post because all you do is gripe and whine, so I really have no idea if you specifically have made lots of references to BG2 and how this game should be more like that one.  Others have made such posts though.  A lot of them in fact.  As far as you go, I think you should just go find a game that you actually like, play that, and stop trying to ruin PoE for everyone else.  It's not healthy man.

    How am I trying to ruin the game for everyone else?

     

    I'm posting in this thread only, and on the RPGCodex. I am not trying to influence the game mechanics or balance in any way. Nor am I producing any anti-PE content elsewhere on the web.

     

    As to why I am posting, well at the moment I don't have too much else to do and I'm pretty mad about how the game turned out.

     

     

    And again I say to you get over it.  I've had games that I had high hopes for that didn't turn out the way I wanted them to.  The difference is that I didn't go on those game's forums and spam it with pointless negativity day after day.  The game is never going to be what you wanted it to be.  Let it go.

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    Really? Please link me to where I said such a thing. Pretty sure I've re-iterated many times that I wanted reactive tactical combat (of which, this game doesn't have - it's mostly strategical and rote in nature) and I expressed disappointment about the plot & story which is a lot worse than most other Obsidian games I've played (save for perhaps the NWN2 OC, but even that didn't have such plot issues).

    Also, to your above statement - I am posting in this thread because it's a thread about an RPG Codex review. I have not posted in any other thread recently, and don't plan to, so if you don't want to read my opinion - don't read this thread. Simple as that.

    I don't really pay much attention to the things you post because all you do is gripe and whine, so I really have no idea if you specifically have made lots of references to BG2 and how this game should be more like that one. Others have made such posts though. A lot of them in fact. As far as you go, I think you should just go find a game that you actually like, play that, and stop trying to ruin PoE for everyone else. It's not healthy man.

    Man, Sensuki has made countless contributions to the development of this game throughout the past two years. You should give him more respect than you do now. That said, looking at the overall tone of your posts in these and other sub forums you're not here to make a positive contribution. If you are, you might want to adjust your tone of speech in order for other people to take your message seriously.

     

     

    I have no respect for someone who only wants to post negative garbage over and over on the PoE forums because his particular vision of the game wasn't realized.

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    Hey Sensuki, move the **** on already.  Most people enjoy this game.  You don't.  Get over it.

     

    Hey Atheosis, move the **** on already. Everybody can state their opinion and some people don't enjoy this game.  Get over it.

     

     

    Sure, and Sensuki has stated his negative enough times already.  I sure wouldn't be posting constantly on the forums of a game I hate, but then I guess I'm just not that messed up in the head...

  15. Really? Please link me to where I said such a thing. Pretty sure I've re-iterated many times that I wanted reactive tactical combat (of which, this game doesn't have - it's mostly strategical and rote in nature) and I expressed disappointment about the plot & story which is a lot worse than most other Obsidian games I've played (save for perhaps the NWN2 OC, but even that didn't have such plot issues).

    Also, to your above statement - I am posting in this thread because it's a thread about an RPG Codex review. I have not posted in any other thread recently, and don't plan to, so if you don't want to read my opinion - don't read this thread. Simple as that.

     

     

    I don't really pay much attention to the things you post because all you do is gripe and whine, so I really have no idea if you specifically have made lots of references to BG2 and how this game should be more like that one.  Others have made such posts though.  A lot of them in fact.  As far as you go, I think you should just go find a game that you actually like, play that, and stop trying to ruin PoE for everyone else.  It's not healthy man.

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