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hmmmmm, seeinig no one has stood up for Handmaiden yet. "Handmaiden is the hottest"

K3 (if they do make one) would be the deciding factor of the KOTR series (I think), it will be the pivital game that would either make or break KOTR. Let's just hope LA isn't going to pull another "K2 deadline" trick on us. They need to take sometime to think this one over and not rush it. Here is me hoping that K3 would be the redemption.

for the melee classes on LS (guardian and weapon master), you get +3 to str bonus.

Thanks a bunch, time for things to start making sense, lol.

lol, looks like i'll have to replay, cos I've got the game on XB.

yeah, I see what you're getting at. all in all, I don't think a prequel would be a good idea for the KOTR series. it's possible to make one, but not a good idea at all.

agreed. tho KOTR itself is kind of a prequal (to a story 4000 years later). but yeah, they definately need a "start from scratch" approach for the next game if any.

lol, signed.

There is a real problem with prequels which is this. They have to have a specific outcome. Imagine EPIII if Anakin just told the emporer to bugger off :D Because of this your choice as player is going to be almost inconsiquential, since in order to tell Revans story it will end with Revan becoming dark lord of the sith. If you were going to do a JRPG style game where the story is a seperate element to the gameplay then it would work. Otherwise you would just be railroading the player to the outcome you require. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> a prequal would be possible, though having that, you won't be able to use any of the main characters from K1 (such as Revan). key to that is having characters that have minimal contact (if at all) with Revan, and a story that runs parallel to but not cross the story of Revan. so perhaps have a story that uses the mandalorian war as a backdrop, maybe the war was a diversion for some kind of greater conspiricy, and your prequal character will go with that story to solve the conspiricy while the story of the mandalorian war gets told during different stage of the game play. just a thought, feel free to bash. p.s I agree with dufflover, finish KOTR series first, before doing any sort of prequal.

signed and agreed. for me, it was like, spending the game doing this one thing just to find out that it actually doesnt have much to do with the story (if at all). was a case of, "what?? was that the credits? is this a joke?". I felt like I've only read half of the story, and still waiting for the climax. or simply the chance to work my character a little more.

perhaps give her some facial plastic surgery?? I'm sure they can do it if they can manage to build robotic hands that can "feel". anyway, I agree with the box-art being totally missleading. For both Atris and Nihilus, neither played a big part in the game. She seemed so much older in the game, the game made her look 10 years older, and her voice added another 5 to that. would be nice to have her in K3, even if it's just a reference in a cut scene.

What's the cutscene like? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's almost similar to the Atton/Disciple scene... Handmaiden gets all pissy, but Visas disarms her by being reasonable. If you trigger this one (by having more INF with Visas, you can also see the Mira/Handmaiden scene (which is the same as the Mira/female PC dialog about men). Also, if you have much more INF with Visas than Handmaiden, you can trigger two cutscenes between Handmaiden/Kreia, where Kreia basically says she didn't try hard enough to keep the PC from the darkside/being corrupted by Visas. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> just a question out of curiosity, if I have full influence with all 3 ladies, would I not get the cat fight cut scenes? the closest thing I've got to a team member being jealous was when Atton talked to the Handmaiden and told her to stay away from my LS PC (and something like "if I know the first tier of your moves, I would know your rituals").

In that case, what a waste. They do know that christmas happen every year right?? Would be nice if they can either release a patch out for it, or like re-release the game as the uncut edition (got the game on xbox, a little hard to get patches on the damn thing). All I can say now is that I think too much was unexplained. Having and open ended ending is one thing, having a sudden and unexplained ending was really anti climatic. It's like one of the only let downs I think. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well I got three words for that one 'Not Gonna Happen :'( ' Lucas Arts owns this thing and they probably don't care about a few disgruntled fans, by the way I managed to peice together most of the HK-50 factory and I posted it on the forum if you want to see it just ask, and welcome to the forum :cool: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks for your welcome. And yes, I would like to see what you have piced together of the HK-50 factory. To the people getting annoyed with me, "we were all noobs at one point". :cool:

In that case, what a waste. They do know that christmas happen every year right?? Would be nice if they can either release a patch out for it, or like re-release the game as the uncut edition (got the game on xbox, a little hard to get patches on the damn thing). All I can say now is that I think too much was unexplained. Having and open ended ending is one thing, having a sudden and unexplained ending was really anti climatic. It's like one of the only let downs I think.

lol, great, now i'll have to play it over yet again to get that part going. Perhaps I'd get to see some cat fight this time around.

If you're playing a LSM character with high influence on Handmaiden and less influence on Visas, and you've completed the game at least three times, then Handmaiden tells you that Atris was indeed in love with you before you went off to fight in the Mandalorian War. You have the option to confirm that, or tell Handmaiden that "if I knew it, perhaps it could have become something". IIRC it was one of the dialog options in the cargo hold of the Ebon Hawk: "Tell me about Atris". <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What?Are you sure about this information? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, it happened to me only a couple of days ago. I don't smoke, don't drink too much, so yeah, I'm pretty sure about it. To be more precise: I'm certain it was a dialog with Handmaiden in the cargohold. I just sparred with her once, I already had Visas, but didn't talk to her yet, but got some influence because I told Atton to warn me when she was healed: I wanted to questioning her. I'm not certain what dialog option it was exactly, when talking to Handmaiden. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would be rather interesting actually, because "tell me about Atris" always gave me "influence: fail" even if I've already got full influence with Handmaiden

Wow, shocking, a lot of the contents got cut. By the looks of it, only like 10% survived that cut. When are they ever going to learn?? "Good things take time", and it's obvious that they didn't take much time with this game. Back to the ending again. I think that they should've at least explained Mira's part of the story, either that, or not have that fight of her vs hanharr at all. Having that fight at that part of the game is about as arbitary as not showing the remote detonating the shadow device thing. Some notes on the plot: Kind of wird how the story starts off by leaving you in the dark, and ends by leaving you in the dark. And things you did in the game didn't really matter much. You never do find out why the jedi casted you out, they gave you a reason, but the jedi masters didn't sound like they believe what they were saying anymore than I did. If they ever decide to make a 3rd one, I'd suggest hiring someone who can actually write a proper story.

helo people, I just finished the game with a LS female on XB, and the ending is really bugging me. Is the ending supposed to be as cryptic as Yoda speech??? Much of the stuff didn't make much sense if any. For Nilious, it feels like he hasn't really got much to do with the game (other than being on the front cover, giving his follower to you and occasionally doing the "rawwwwwrrr" at you while you're on the Ravager). As for Sion, it's like "ummmm, are you sure you're a Sith????", why would a Sith care if the exile gets corrupted?? All that aside, the stuff that went on at M5 was just about as confusing as it gets. How did Mira end up anywhere near where she woke up before she faught Hanharr?? Like, sure, if she flew through the window when they crash landed, but all the way to the big metal gate near the bridge to the Sith academy???? Then she walks towards the academy after her victory, and that pretty much the end of that. Why did they even bother with that? What is the point? If she did go into the academy, why did I not encounter her (or any of my followers) when I was in the academy?? Who fixed Ebon Hawk?? Last I checked it got banged up pretty bad when it crash landed on M5, and then later on fell down a bottom-less pit. Next thing I knew, Ebon Hawk picked up my character and flew off, and not explaining what happened to the remote and GO-TO after their little convo about "we'll wait for the command......blah". What exactly is that map note in the academy that I can never get to? Some sort of secret? I'm like totally lost after watching that ending. Would be nice if someone can explain the importance (if any) to the ending. p.s anyone know anything about that HK protocol droid in the Telos base (where you get the orbital shuttle shuttle to get to the ice cap). I managed to activate him, then he started following me, and then some random cut scene (like a 1 or perhaps 2 sec cut scene) showing him blowing up, and then he was gone.