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These threads are always hilarious after the first page. Surprised Texans are into ID, never thought they were Florida type dumb
It was just an example of the Federal government overriding the will of the voters who actually PAY for the schools whose districts they live in. Allowing the governed to have a say in their governance is a radical concept I know. But I don't want this to turn into a discussion on the merits of ID. It was just an example. Looking at YOU aluminiumtrioxid!
But you are right about your other point. Somehow all our threads end up being derailed into the pros and cons of socialism. It does get tiring.
While I understand your point regarding the Federal government, it was pretty messed up (IMO) to have the content of education be up for a popular vote in the first place.
That wasn't really how it worked. Texas has a commission of the State Government that reviews text books and other class material. It works with local school boards and other groups to approve what is taught and used. One of the books included ID as a subject to be discussed in addition to evolution. Not to exclude it it. The federal government wen high and to the right over that and threatened to withhold funding if the material was used. That money was tax dollars collected from Texas taxpayers. Now THAT is intrusion.
You know come to that I remember a similar row, I think it was also in Texas (not sure) about how State history was being taught. In that instance too the Federal Government intervened in a very heavy handed way.
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You ever met somebody that really made an effort to be miserable and angry at the world, regardless of their actual circumstances and what other people tried to do to help?
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Poor baby: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/01/a-student-felt-traumatized-because-his-p
One wonders how this poor delicate little snowflake will ever function in a world where it is not enough for the evil white race to be respectful to him.
College student writing a goofy op ed. Well that's something new and notable.
You know I've been asking myself how the heck we have ended up with Donald f-----g Trump as President of the United States. Besides the fact the no sane person who loves freedom and liberty wanted Clinton in the office. And the reason has a lot to do with stuff like this. It's a classic example of overcompensation from years of PC bullying from the left. So yes, this is one insignificant example of the sniffling of an insipid liberal crybaby. But it is one MORE example of many over the last 20 years. And when this fetid tripe finds it's was into policy, which it often does with Democrats in office, it stops being annoying and becomes a problem with real teeth. And when people get sick of it they over react. Like in November.
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Poor baby: http://reason.com/blog/2017/02/01/a-student-felt-traumatized-because-his-p
One wonders how this poor delicate little snowflake will ever function in a world where it is not enough for the evil white race to be respectful to him.
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On average, how many eggs per day will each hen produce?
I've had them for three months now and have gotten about a dozen or so. I'm going to let some of them hatch then sell the chicks once they are ready. I herded them out into the garden plot and let them scratch around the topsoil and "fertilize" it a little.
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I wish Trump would focus his efforts on a very important matter. We are on the precipice of an actual disaster:
Hmmm... I need to invest in some pigs. But knowing me I'll get attached to them and they will die of old age. I've have various types of livestock over the years that were bought for consumption that ended up living long happy lives. Like to four hens and rooster now living in my rabbit enclosure.
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I was listening to New Day on CNN this morning. It looks like the Dems are lining up to fight over the Gorsuch nomination. Objectively, that would be ill advised. Replacing Scalia with Gorsuch will not change the balance of the court. It's a push. They would be better advised to fight over the next one. Because odds are it will be Ginsburg or Kennedy and replacing one of those will tilt the court.
Of course if it is Ginsburg and I were President I'd send up Janice Rogers Brown and tell the Democrats they are just a bunch of sexist, racists if they don't confirm her. Now THAT I'd like to see!
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These threads are always hilarious after the first page. Surprised Texans are into ID, never thought they were Florida type dumb
It was just an example of the Federal government overriding the will of the voters who actually PAY for the schools whose districts they live in. Allowing the governed to have a say in their governance is a radical concept I know. But I don't want this to turn into a discussion on the merits of ID. It was just an example. Looking at YOU aluminiumtrioxid!
But you are right about your other point. Somehow all our threads end up being derailed into the pros and cons of socialism. It does get tiring.
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Thanks. So in this case, your point is that state run schools have proven able to take on good ideas and stay on top of the latest education strategies, while federal involvement hasn't done much for actual teaching quality since it got hands dirty in the 70s? It's good to get the specific reasons, because they are certainly more substantial than a blanket wish for local government in any subject.
That plus the expansion of Federal Government control over what is or isn't taught in schools means a total loss of local and state control. If there is something your local government is doing that you don't like or want to see done better it is easy to reach out to the people who can make a change. If the Federal Government is doing something you don't like, tough luck. A recent example is the argument over whether Intelligent Design should have been taught alongside Evolution in Texas public schools. The voters of Texas who pay the taxes wanted it. the Federal Government said no. Whether you agree with ID or not, it's still up to the voters how live in the school districts to say what or how their children are taught IMO. That is lost once Big Brother is involved.
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Get the Federal Government out of education. Once upon a time the individual states designed their curricula around what the State Universities expected incoming freshmen to know. In those day the US education system was much better. One of the best in the world. Now the federal government was made a bloody mess of it (as if they could do anything else) and we never break into the top 10.
As a foreigner, I'm genuinely curious (and ignorant): what makes state government so much better than the federal in these cases, such that so many commentators will often say "give it to the states and they'll just do it better"? Is it a general statement about scale, and governing as locally as possible? Is there a proven track record of states handling education or other issues far better, and if so, is that an efficiency question or is that about states tending to take different solutions?
Ok, this is a bit complex because in the most un-libertarian fashion I do believe the Federal Government does have a role to play in education and not everything is has done has been a disaster. Although most of the recent things have been. The federal government is responsible for de-segregating schools, the national school lunch program, the act that created the Land Grant Colleges in the post-civil war US (I forget the name of the act) and the Special Education programs of the 1970's. These were all a big deal that helped. Prior to the 1830's (give or take, I'm going on memory here) most schools were community managed or parochial. Most children learned from their parents. Around the 1830s a Congressman named Mann began a reform program for "common" schools based on German education of the day. Basically students were taught the same thing all over the state. All the other states followed suit. This was when teaching actually became a profession. Now the students were being taught a curricula that the Universities and trade colleges ( they were called Agricultural and Mechanical colleges and many are still around) wanted incoming students to know. By the late 20th Century a fellow named Dewey (if you have ever used a card catalogue you know who he is) began writing textbooks that taught not just academics but life skills and they were quickly incorporated into state run schools. By the 1950s & 60's I think the US primary education system was the best in the world. And then it started to fall apart. In the '70's and 80's the Government began to get more involved in funding, curricula design, and the local school boards and state governments began to lose control. And then the federal government began to take funding collected by taxes in one state and distribute (or withhold if the schools did not comply with mandatory curricula) and the whole thing has become something of a mess.
That is a very brief summation of something big, complex, and sort of messy but I hope you get the idea.
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Btw, Gorsuch is the Supreme Court nominee, in case anyone hasn't heard and cares.
I like the pick. Better than Hardiman and way better than Prior. I still wish he had picked Janice Rogers Brown. Maybe next time.
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Well I for one will do what I always do: stockpile food, ammunition, non-perishable supplies.... and wait
Ive always wanted a doomsday shelter (fort). I'm not even particularly concerned with doomsday, I just think it would be so cool to have it. Not one of those prefab's you can buy...I want mine carved out of straight bedrock, 100Ft deep, with a blast door. One of those cool thick ones with pistons that lock into the walls.
well, you can become mormon. pretty much get all the doomsday prep stuff thrown in as part o' the deal, yes? sure, you won't get the doomsday shelter just for converting, but with all the community doomsday preparation experience available to you, am suspecting you will be miles ahead in terms o' getting started.
HA! Good Fun!
I can't get behind any religion that thinks coffee is a sin.
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Well I for one will do what I always do: stockpile food, ammunition, non-perishable supplies.... and wait
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Get the Federal Government out of education. Once upon a time the individual states designed their curricula around what the State Universities expected incoming freshmen to know. In those day the US education system was much better. One of the best in the world. Now the federal government was made a bloody mess of it (as if they could do anything else) and we never break into the top 10.
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Ben & Algroth,
Sorry Gents, but you are wrong. The knights and soldiers might have been fighting for God but the Pope's, kings, and sovereigns who sent them were all about money. And without that none of them would have been there. The Byzantines lost Jerusalem somewhere around the middle 600's AD. For four hundred years after that it was under several different caliphates, Sunni Muslim every one, and nobody gave a damn because pilgrimages and trade with India and Persia still flowed. Then in 1068 the Seljuks closed the land to Christians and cut off the silk roads to the East and the Kingdoms of Europe started to take notice. So take that, the fact the Pope Urban II (who had so little power he could not even enter Rome) needed an "issue" and the opportunity to reunite the Church of Rome and the Greek Orthodox and the Sovereigns of Europe wanting trade resumed and you have the recipe for the First Crusade. Had the Seljuks kept the status quo none of it would have happened.
I agree that it was motivated largely by the sovereigns' greed. It all falls down to power and money stands as a currency for such. Nevertheless the religious motivation proved successful for the larger mass of the army, and what I was pointing out to Ben was that had religion not been such a powerful ideological force back in those times, and had it been something else like, say, a political movement, patriotism, or even science, these would have provided the new necessity by which to justify the Crusades.
Yep. I'll go along with that. If humans are not killing each other because Deus Vult, then it will be over some other reason.
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I'm still wondering, though....
We went to war with the British over far fewer taxes and property rights violations than the US Government is hammering us with today.
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Wow the language of education has changed quite a bit in 122 years. I assume principle parts of a verb is a long way to say conjugation. What is the volume of a bushel of wheat? Heck I don't know. I could answer the second math question pretty easily if I did. The first math question is talking about the Associative and Distributive properties I guess. On number 9 how the heck many rods are in an acre? Uh oh... History question #4 is a no no. The Democrats won't want you discussing THAT with students!
The rest isn't too hard.
Why is "Show the territorial growth of the United States." a no no?
Doh! Thanks. I fixed it. It was question 3.
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Yeah KP is right! Most students are ok! To quote Judge Smails "The world needs ditch diggers too!"
That's the problem, nobody is telling these kids they should be ditch diggers. They can be anything they want if they go to community college.
But with a bit less snark, college is fairly accessible to almost any student coming out of High School. This is great because it offers opportunity to a diverse range of students instead just of the ones that come from specific socio-economic backgrounds. But it also means you are going to have a much wider range of academic abilities. Couple that with the fact public education has been doubling down on math, science, and language arts for decades and devaluing trade skills, and you have some issues.
Trying to convince my students that plumbers, electricians, and mechanics are not only important, but can make a lot of money is not an easy task. They get the exact opposite message from their parents and society as a whole.
Yeah no kidding. I went to a Community College for four years! And my career has been.... it's been.... well, I have one.
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Wow the language of education has changed quite a bit in 122 years. I assume principle parts of a verb is a long way to say conjugation. What is the volume of a bushel of wheat? Heck I don't know. I could answer the second math question pretty easily if I did. The first math question is talking about the Associative and Distributive properties I guess. On number 9 how the heck many rods are in an acre? Uh oh... History question #3 is a no no. The Democrats won't want you discussing THAT with students!
The rest isn't too hard.
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Yeah KP is right! Most students are ok! To quote Judge Smails "The world needs ditch diggers too!"
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30% of Colorado & Montana's incoming freshmen were placed in Arkansas???
Who they heck are you and how did you get Gromnir's password?
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Ben & Algroth,
Sorry Gents, but you are wrong. The knights and soldiers might have been fighting for God but the Pope's, kings, and sovereigns who sent them were all about money. And without that none of them would have been there. The Byzantines lost Jerusalem somewhere around the middle 600's AD. For four hundred years after that it was under several different caliphates, Sunni Muslim every one, and nobody gave a damn because pilgrimages and trade with India and Persia still flowed. Then in 1068 the Seljuks closed the land to Christians and cut off the silk roads to the East and the Kingdoms of Europe started to take notice. So take that, the fact the Pope Urban II (who had so little power he could not even enter Rome) needed an "issue" and the opportunity to reunite the Church of Rome and the Greek Orthodox and the Sovereigns of Europe wanting trade resumed and you have the recipe for the First Crusade. Had the Seljuks kept the status quo none of it would have happened.
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Figures one of the shooters was a Megadeth fan
Well he clearly doesn't listen to Dave Mustaine's lyrics.
Well, where he lost me was stopping legal residents of the US from returning. And I believe that has already been walked back. But this is a lot less of a big deal than is being made of it. I can't wait to hear the SCOTUS pick tomorrow. The Democrats and the Media (the same thing I know) are going to go batsht crazy. It will be entertaining at least.
I think it is a pretty big deal for the legal residents who couldn't return home. And it doesn't seem entirely over yet. Also the fact that a federal judge has already had to block part of an executive order in the first week of his presidency seems like a big red flag. Has that happened before?
I wondered the same thing. That has GOT to be a record.
There are a few frequenting this very forum actually! But point taken.
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I had a teacher in 10th grade that I credit to this day for kindling a love of history that I still have today. His class emphasized critical thinking over rote memorization. It was a European History class and he focused his entire lesson plans on cause and effect rather than facts and dates. And I was fascinated. Of course back in those days teachers had a lot more latitude that I expect you do now.